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AI Aircraft/Cat Launch: Wind Over Deck (IAS)

Problem: #3 Cat, on both the USS Forrestal and Super Carrier, are dumping AI A-4E-C A/C, w/o payload, into the sea.

Assume: Lack of Airspeed - as 3,000 lb loaded A-4E-C A/C from the other three Cat's struggle and sometimes even drag their gear.

Situation: Steaming at 18 kn., because of the Replenishment ship, into a 15 kn. (@33 ft.) wind, 10° port, down the flight-deck.

Combined Wind Over Deck: a calculated 32 kn.

External View IAS: (On flight deck or Cat)

Player: 36 kn.

AI: 19 kn.

AI appear to respond to Wind at airfields.

 

EDIT:

Did External View Launch Tests off the USS Forrestal.

AI A-4E-C: Full Internal Fuel, 3,000 lb payload + 2xAIM-9M (4074 lb), 86% Max Gross Weight.

Launch Speeds/Results: Consistent over program

CAT.1, .2, .4: 153 kn. IAS - (fly off)

CAT.3: 144 kn. IAS - (swim)

 

EDIT#2:

Reduced Wind to 5 kn, increased Speed to 28 kn., for the same Wind Over Deck.

Repeated the Tests.

Same A/C results.

Launch Speeds/Results: Consistent over program

CAT.1, .2, .4: 152 kn. IAS - (fly off)

CAT.3: 141 kn. IAS - (swim)

 

Please advise.

 

Bowie

 

 

 

Edited by Bowie
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Can I respectfully ask WHY once again you would do all this work to do this testing and then not bother to attach any tracks or mission file that someone else could use to validate your results easily?

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59 minutes ago, rob10 said:

Can I respectfully ask WHY once again you would do all this work to do this testing and then not bother to attach any tracks or mission file that someone else could use to validate your results easily?

As opposed to putting an A-4E-C on the USS Forrestal and shooting it off the #3 Cat?

EDIT:

IF you embark a Division, to "take-off from runway", it will be the second plane off... the wet one.

 

Cat#3 Bug.trk

 

Bowie

Edited by Bowie
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I think there are several issues here.
- First, we're dealing with a community MOD, not an ED or third-party AI. Perhaps the question should be directed to the MOD creator.
- Second, we're talking about a third-party AI, in this case Heatblur. There shouldn't be any issues with any configuration in that AI, so it should be noted in the appropriate forum section.

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23 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

I think there are several issues here.
- First, we're dealing with a community MOD, not an ED or third-party AI. Perhaps the question should be directed to the MOD creator.
- Second, we're talking about a third-party AI, in this case Heatblur. There shouldn't be any issues with any configuration in that AI, so it should be noted in the appropriate forum section.

Did the exact same mission profile, 3,000 lb payload, except w/ a carrier change to Super.

 

Cat#3 Super.trk

All flew off.

So, the true offender - is USS Forrestal's low power #3 Cat.

The original tests were w/ a 4,000 lb bomb-load, and both Carriers' #3 Cat failed to keep the planes dry.

3,000 lbs is reasonable for a carrier launch.

But the USS Forrestal's #3 Diving Board still needs a fix.

 

Bowie

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