DCS CRASH 1.0.1,,,

[Aviators]

nothing to do .. I have uninstalled everything clean and installed first then the dcs 1.0.1a from the link that you sent me .. but every time I hit the game fly by with an error saying windows to send or no problems and then I go back screen menu ...and now?

[Ulrich]

Please provide a screenshot of error you have.

[Quirkitized]

I am having the same problem. There is no "Error", no error crash log. I simply just load up a mission, and sometimes within 1-2seconds it will freeze, no errors. It just stops responding. I cannot figure it out, I have unplugged my logitech momo wheel, my 360 usb controller, even my x52, tried new 9.8 ati drivers, tried different sound drivers, tried enabling and disabling 3d alchemy, tried disable/enable catalyst AI... I also dont have a sidewinder mouse

 

 

This is with a fresh install of BS then patch install, no mods installed. It just flat out stops responding, when this happens its always within 1-2sec of a mission start. It's weird because sometimes it will play fine. I'm running out of ideas...i'll be watchin this thread.

 

Vista 64

Saitek X52

ATI 4850

ATI 9.8 drivers

Creative Xfi with latest drivers & alchemy

Core 2 Duo @ 3.2ghz, 4GB ram

 

This never happened to me in original BS as well.

 

EDIT: My problem seems to be with the Mission Editor. I do not seem to have this problem with any of the stock missions, but I get lockups all the time when I try to create missions with mission editor. Right now I have a mission created with nothing more than a FARP and some onvoys, no triggers or anything set yet and get lockups. Interesting. I'll try to pinpoint it and reproduce the problem.

Edited August 20, 2009 by Quirkitized

[dragony]

Tell me please, what missions you're trying to load? Written for 1.0 version? Have you tried to open them in editor and save?

[Quirkitized]

It's missions I am making, with 1.01 patch. I havent opened or edited any missions that game with game or other missions made by users, prepatch or post patch. So far, I can narrow it down to just missions I make because of this.

 

I am trying to pinpoint the problem, I'll post the mission soon, its really problematic because it makes me want to stop making a mission due to lockup, then sometimes it works ><

[dragony]

Very interesting, please post it, I'll take a look at it.

[Quirkitized]

I ended up doing a few things to mission and now the mission is working just fine. I promise next time this lockup happens i'll save mission, and upload here so you can take a look.

[Aviators]

then load any mission. Dcs load all the items but instead found myself in the cockpit saying, DCS stopped working, WINDOWS IS LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM .. I can not picture a beaked during the error .. I do not know why .. and then after the error leads me in the debriefing

Edited August 20, 2009 by Aviators

[EtherealN]

Aviators, have you checked your error.log and errors.log in the Temp folder within your DCS installation?

[Aviators]

I looked into it I do not ever compare any files in the temp folder ... why? maybe because windows solves the problem before it crashes or stuff of that kind?

[Quirkitized]

Dragony, here is a mission that is locking up. Just load up this mission, and see if it locks up for you, for me it will always lockup within 1-2sec, no more than 2seconds.

 

As far as the mission goes, its a FARP base with friendly convoys heading to an enemy base, with that enemy base guarded by AAA and convoys. Obviously, its not finished, its a very rough draft of a few ideas I had, there are no triggers yet so it isnt trigger related. This I can tell you about the lockups:

 

Load up the mission, see if it locks up, If it locks up do the following in the editor:

1 - Right next to the farp is the 3 friendly convoys heading west, the middle convoy is BMP-3s, if you timehold it to 23hrs the mission will not lock up.

(BMP-3 Convoy name 'Time hold 23 and no lockup')

 

2 - You can also make it work by deleting the USA HAWK units far Northeast, and leaving the BMP-3 convoy to 0, so it spawns right away.

(Enemy HAWK group name 'Delete this and no lockup')

 

So basically, Timehold middle friendly convoy to 23hrs while leaving USA enemy Hawk unit in, it will loadup. If you delete enemy hawk unit, you dont have to timehold friendly bmp3 convoy and it'll work.

 

If you delete hawk unit, just re-add, and it will instantly lockup again. I narrowed it down to that much, if it doesnt lockup for you, then i can work on my end, maybe issue with my comp. This isn't the only mission this has happened to me on, it's happened acouple other times after putting lots of hours into a mission and getting so frustrated with the lockups trying to figure it out i ended up deleting the missions, but I stuck with it this time and pinpointed it to the couple problems above, for this specific mission.

lockupmission.miz

Edited August 21, 2009 by Quirkitized

[Panzertard]

Yes, was able to reproduce the crash

1. Start up DCS in MP, Server

2. Load mission

3. Unpause

4. Barely manged to use mouse to turn the view before it locked up.

No crash dump - nothing odd in the temp\logs.

I think it should be possible to reproduce this one at ED ;)

[Quirkitized]

I am happy to hear it was repeatable by somebody else, but also sad at the same time...I was hoping it was something on my end, like a simple driver issue, haha. If you follow my steps above, you can achieve a "work-around", and maybe find the real problem and a solution. This was a temp thing for me to see why its locking up, but beyond those things I mentioned earlier I have no idea why, and it does it different times I made missions.

 

edit: A few things I can personaly rule out from my own testing:

1 - It's not a limit on how many groups or units, I made another mission with 200 units, 20 groups, 10 units each, no lockup. I was thinking maybe there is a max # of units/groups available at a giving time that will run.

2 - I also tried on another mission with the 20 groups (10units ea.) and put a farp in and other static buildings thinking maybe a max # of units/groups, waypoints & static objects "overloaded' the mission, but it loaded up fine.

 

Hopefully some good news soon about finding the problem :D

Edited August 21, 2009 by Quirkitized

[Panzertard]

I am happy to hear it was repeatable by somebody else, but also sad at the same time...I was hoping it was something on my end, like a simple driver issue, haha. If you follow my steps above, you can achieve a "work-around", and maybe find the real problem and a solution. This was a temp thing for me to see why its locking up, but beyond those things I mentioned earlier I have no idea why, and it does it different times I made missions.

 

Hopefully some good news soon about finding the problem :D

I've given the real geeks hidden in the backroom a hint about your findings. :) I hope they are able to figure out whats going on :)

Good find! :thumbup:

[Quirkitized]

I found another mission i was in the process of making until this same problem came about and I stopped making the mission. It was a mission where we needed to take over an makeshift airfield, bombers come in, enemy convoys, planes, friendlys come in, etc, I deleted all the triggers because i was trying to find the problem, just like other mission this is a rough draft because i wasnt able to complete it.

 

But enough about the mission, hopefully having another mission to look at it, giving a lockup, will help. See attachment.

 

My apologizes for derailing your thread Aviators.

lockupmission2.miz

[rockyalexander]

The only problem with this mission is that 1WP Enemy north can't start line abreast from the position you have them placed. There appears to be some terrain obstacle or something. Move them to the west about a half-click or so, or change the formation. The mission will then work without a hitch.

What occurs is that 1WP Enemy north spawns facing north, but moving backwards in the programmed direction of travel, which is southwest. About two seconds after the mission begins, the column tries to "respawn" facing the programmed direction of travel, but there seems to be a vehicle or two which is unable to change positions so instantly because of, as I said, some terrain obstacle or such. Hence the lockup.

I hope this observation is useful.

[Aviators]

sorry .. but I how do I solve my problem?

[Quirkitized]

thanks rocky, i'll check it out, also do you happen to see a reason why the other mission is locking up, the first one. and sorry again for derailing your thread aviator.

[Panzertard]

then load any mission. Dcs load all the items but instead found myself in the cockpit saying, DCS stopped working, WINDOWS IS LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM .. I can not picture a beaked during the error .. I do not know why .. and then after the error leads me in the debriefing

 

This *should* leave a nnnnn.CRASH fil e in the "\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\Temp" folder. Are you *Really* sure you dont find any relevant files there?

 

Otherwise we're getting short of ideas here you know ;)

And did you try what I posted here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=733861&postcount=11

All of it?

 

Here's a even longer list: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=735086&postcount=11

It's quite important that you *do* have a working computer before we can be anywhere close to figuring out what the problem is :)

[rockyalexander]

thanks rocky, i'll check it out, also do you happen to see a reason why the other mission is locking up, the first one. and sorry again for derailing your thread aviator.

 

Again, it's the line abreast formation. In this case, 1WP Frontline. For some reason line abreast formations spawn facing opposite their programmed direction of travel. When they try to respawn facing the right way...lockup. Change 1WP Frontline's formation to cone and the mission will work.

[Quirkitized]

Again, it's the line abreast formation. In this case, 1WP Frontline. For some reason line abreast formations spawn facing opposite their programmed direction of travel. When they try to respawn facing the right way...lockup. Change 1WP Frontline's formation to cone and the mission will work.

 

Thanks a lot, maybe ED will release a note or sticky in mission forum about this issue, I am sure I will not be the only person that comes across this problem. Cheers.

[Aviators]

I can not find any log files in TEMP folder ... anyway before I had two viruses ... use norton 360 .. that perhaps have never been removed ... remove them and reinstalling dcs? ps: why every time I install dcs with asks me the cd key to protection? I can not start directly with the cd? instead use the key to a limited use of 8 times already in 5 ...

[Panzertard]

I can not find any log files in TEMP folder ... anyway before I had two viruses ... use norton 360 .. that perhaps have never been removed ... remove them and reinstalling dcs? ps: why every time I install dcs with asks me the cd key to protection? I can not start directly with the cd? instead use the key to a limited use of 8 times already in 5 ...

 

1. Before you Uninstall - run Protect.exe (or start DCS with SHIFT pressed)

2. You will then see the activation and *deactivation* wizard.

3. Use Deactivate - write down the "Deactivation Code" you get - follow the guide on screen.

 

You can read about this in the "Quick Start guide" - "<your disk>\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\Doc\DCS-BS_Quick_Start_Manual_eng.pdf"

 

Now - you've had virus. DCS isnt broken. Windows is.

You should reinstall your windows - sorry to say. (You dont know what the virus did - or if there are more parts being active).

Reinstall :)

The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild. That’s right. If you have a system that has been completely compromised, the only thing you can do is to flatten the system (reformat the system disk) and rebuild it from scratch (reinstall Windows and your applications). Alternatively, you could of course work on your resume instead, but I don’t want to see you doing that.

Edited August 21, 2009 by Panzertard

[Aviators]

ok .. reinstall windows .. but in a few weeks ... the time I buy an external hard disk and copy everything ... thanks again ...

[Panzertard]

ok .. reinstall windows .. but in a few weeks ... the time I buy an external hard disk and copy everything ... thanks again ...

Good luck, bud :)

I can assure you that it's safest to clean your computer like that - you dont want your back account drained or ID stolen :)

And you will most likely have a working DCS afterwards too :)