Crystal Super Mura - how much is acceptable?

[Papamiraculi]

I got a Pimax Super, basically for DCS only. 

Now DCS is probably a really difficult case for and VR headset when it comes to Mura  because we are looking at uniform bright background (aka the sky) a lot while scanning for small pixels (aka spotting).

I get quite some Mura in the Super, more so than in the quest 3, which I never noticed tbh.

It's ok if doing A2G, but in some A2A it is noticable. Depending on the weather it can get distracting.

I wonder how much is ok or acceptable.

Are there Supers virtually free of Mura out there?

Also, does Mura improve over time as the panel gets more use?

 

[MadMonty]

36 minutes ago, Papamiraculi said:

I got a Pimax Super, basically for DCS only. 

Now DCS is probably a really difficult case for and VR headset when it comes to Mura  because we are looking at uniform bright background (aka the sky) a lot while scanning for small pixels (aka spotting).

I get quite some Mura in the Super, more so than in the quest 3, which I never noticed tbh.

It's ok if doing A2G, but in some A2A it is noticable. Depending on the weather it can get distracting.

I wonder how much is ok or acceptable.

Are there Supers virtually free of Mura out there?

Also, does Mura improve over time as the panel gets more use?

 

I definitely don't have MURA with my Super. Initially, I had a grey veil caused by QV that looked like a rectangle on the higher resolution area, but disabling SSAO got rid of that too.

 

In other posts, users initially mention MURA, but say that you get used to it and it goes away over time. Maybe, at the beginning of my 50s, my eyes are simply too bad to see it anymore. From this perspective, MURA will disappear over time in any case. 

 

[Panzerlang]

42 minutes ago, Papamiraculi said:

I got a Pimax Super, basically for DCS only. 

Now DCS is probably a really difficult case for and VR headset when it comes to Mura  because we are looking at uniform bright background (aka the sky) a lot while scanning for small pixels (aka spotting).

I get quite some Mura in the Super, more so than in the quest 3, which I never noticed tbh.

It's ok if doing A2G, but in some A2A it is noticable. Depending on the weather it can get distracting.

I wonder how much is ok or acceptable.

Are there Supers virtually free of Mura out there?

Also, does Mura improve over time as the panel gets more use?

 

Personally, I speculate that the Super's moira (or mura) is a feature on such a high-rez panel and doesn't differ from one headset to another. But maybe I'm wrong. I can see it in mine if I look for it, at which point it can piss me off, until I remember not to look for it. Then, I no longer register it.

[Moxica]

You guys talking about "Moiré" ?
I see it in th F-16 MFD where there are two distinct lines in purple and blue (or was it red?)
Also, the MMS in Kiowa.
I get rid of it by disabling/experimenting with AA and DLSS settings. (Off, preferably)
Also, try to adjust the PIMAX hight on your face.

Edited 1 hour ago by Moxica

[Papamiraculi]

vor 7 Minuten schrieb Moxica:

You guys talking about "Moiré" ?
I see it in th F-16 MFD where there are two distinct lines in purple and blue (or was it red?)
Also, the MMS in Kiowa.
I get rid of it by disabling/experimenting with AA and DLSS settings.

No not Moire pattern.

 

Mura is uneven brightness of individual pixels which shows as a kind of "dirty screen effect" on blank backgrounds when moving your head. Imagine smeared (sun)glasses. This type of impression.

[Moxica]

4 minutes ago, Papamiraculi said:

No not Moire pattern.

 

Mura is uneven brightness of individual pixels which shows as a kind of "dirty screen effect" on blank backgrounds when moving your head. Imagine smeared (sun)glasses. This type of impression.

Thanks for the clarification.
But yeah. I got that to. 
-Cleaning the lenses to no avail. 

[Peedee]

1 hour ago, Papamiraculi said:

I got a Pimax Super, basically for DCS only. 

Now DCS is probably a really difficult case for and VR headset when it comes to Mura  because we are looking at uniform bright background (aka the sky) a lot while scanning for small pixels (aka spotting).

I get quite some Mura in the Super, more so than in the quest 3, which I never noticed tbh.

It's ok if doing A2G, but in some A2A it is noticable. Depending on the weather it can get distracting.

I wonder how much is ok or acceptable.

Are there Supers virtually free of Mura out there?

Also, does Mura improve over time as the panel gets more use?

 

I have some mura in my Super. But it is little. It is no problem. I have to look for it. So, I  don’t think about it. My old Reverb G1 and my Sony PSVR2 has much more. Much more. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Peedee

[Gun Jam]

2 hours ago, Papamiraculi said:

I wonder how much is ok or acceptable.

well a lot of us have been fine using the G2 so at least that much lol (in other words it far worse in the g2 vs the super)