Noe of the TM Viper TQS mission pack OFF setting register as a button press in DCS or in any other SIM

[RTS354]

I just received my replacement TQS after some of the switches failed on my previous version. My issue is that none of the  switches work in the off position, and this also applies to the Gear switch as well; for example, in DCS, I can bind the gear up position, but not the gear down position. I can bind the CAT 1 position, but not the CAT 3 position.  This applies to all buttons and switches on the throttle. Although with some of the switches, I can select the button off option for binary functions, I cannot do this with the OFF option in the MODE switch or the BIT option on the Program switch. I had no issues with my previous the version of the Viper TQS and I didn't even need to install any drivers for it. It just worked perfectly out of the box. I thought it might be an issue with Thrustmaster switching to virtual buttons, but I could not find any options in Windows 11 , or in the TARGET software to enable virtual buttons. Any suggestions?

[MAXsenna]

@RTS354 You don't need T.A.R.G.E.T for this in DCS.
I assume the TQS is made like the Warthog, with two position switches only wired for one of the positions, and three positions wired only for two positions. Hence sims can't detect the off positions without logic build in.
I'm a little confused. Say you bind "gear up" to one of the switches, "button1" and then you have to bind the same switch to the off position "button1_off" for "gear down". You already tried this and it doesn't work? That's the issue? That's odd. Never experienced that.
In other sims, if they don't provide the same "off" logic like DCS does, your just out of luck, or must use T.A.R.G.E.T.

Cheers!


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[RTS354]

I think I fixed the issue with the keys not binding. I had to copy the program 2024_TFHT_1.exe from my old computer to my new one. This is the Thrustmaster Control Panel program that allows you to enable virtual buttons.  There is no documentation on the Thrustmaster support site that states that this is a required program to get the full functionality if the TQS throttle, nor is there any link to this file on the TQS support page as to where to download this program. I down loaded this program on 2024 and it looks like it was discontinued. The only software to download for the TQS Throttle is the TARGET software, and I never used it on any of my Thrustmaster joysticks. Luckily I had a second computer with this program installed. If it works, I will mark this post as solved, but I working on this issue for 8 hours and its time to sleep.

I also have an other issue where  the landing gear knob is loose and just touching it causes the the up button to turn off which should not happen since I didn't do the full swing of the level to the down position. Note that this is a new joystick replacement for my old one. This is the last time I buy a Thrustmaster product.

[MAXsenna]

@RTS354
Sounds strange. You didn't answer my question though. Because I guess that's where the error is, if WHATEVER_BUTTON_OFF doesn't work. Should be no need for virtual buttons.

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[GPatricks]

3 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

@RTS354
Sounds strange. You didn't answer my question though. Because I guess that's where the error is, if WHATEVER_BUTTON_OFF doesn't work. Should be no need for virtual buttons.

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Yes, DCS uses the DX# button OFF for switches that don't output a DX press for aa position, BMS uses "DX Release" to accomplish the same thing..