S-3 Viking recovery tanker pattern

[jojo]

When using the task "recovery tanker" in the mission editor, the S-3 used to fly a nice race track pattern following the aircraft carrier.

Now it's flying a circular pattern in front of the aircraft carrier.

 

[rob10]

5 hours ago, jojo said:

When using the task "recovery tanker" in the mission editor, the S-3 used to fly a nice race track pattern following the aircraft carrier.

Now it's flying a circular pattern in front of the aircraft carrier.

Post a track and your .miz file.  Just did a quick test on the Caucasus map with air started S-3 tanker and given a minute or two for it to get itself into proper position it worked as expected.

Do you have ANY mods installed?  Double check that you picked the tanker version of the S-3 (not sure if that would make a difference).

[jojo]

26 minutes ago, rob10 said:

Post a track and your .miz file.  Just did a quick test on the Caucasus map with air started S-3 tanker and given a minute or two for it to get itself into proper position it worked as expected.

Do you have ANY mods installed?  Double check that you picked the tanker version of the S-3 (not sure if that would make a difference).

Hi,

Here is the mission file.

MP_F18_CQ_TrainingCaseI -BUG REPORT.miz

[Gierasimov]

Works for me

RCVRY TKR.trk

[Gierasimov]

30 minutes ago, jojo said:

Hi,

Here is the mission file.

MP_F18_CQ_TrainingCaseI -BUG REPORT.miz 361.15 kB · 1 download

@jojo - In your mission you have these advanced tasks for both tankers at waypoint 1, delete these waypoints and just give the advanced task "Recovery Tanker" at waypoint 0 already. Then it works fine, otherwise it is as you described. Here is the track of working as expected in your mission, after the change I explained above.

RCVRY TKR - FROM MIZ .trk

Edited November 13 by Gierasimov

[jojo]

3 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

@jojo - In your mission you have these advanced tasks for both tankers at waypoint 1, delete these waypoints and just give the advanced task "Recovery Tanker" at waypoint 0 already. Then it works fine, otherwise it is as you described. Here is the track of working as expected in your mission, after the change I explained above.

RCVRY TKR - FROM MIZ .trk 900.33 kB · 1 download

Thank you for your time and your help.

But actually, the problem seems to be the speed.
I set 272kt GS & 6000ft to get around 250kt CAS, because it's around the Hornet max endurance speed.
At 260kt GS the Viking is doing race track patterns. At 263kt GS the Viking is doing circles (everything else being equal).
I didn't try 261kt and 262kt because such small change doesn't matter anymore.

I don't understand why that speed is a problem ? 250kt CAS isn't a crazy speed to refuel a jet fighter !

[rob10]

1 hour ago, jojo said:

Thank you for your time and your help.

But actually, the problem seems to be the speed.
I set 272kt GS & 6000ft to get around 250kt CAS, because it's around the Hornet max endurance speed.
At 260kt GS the Viking is doing race track patterns. At 263kt GS the Viking is doing circles (everything else being equal).
I didn't try 261kt and 262kt because such small change doesn't matter anymore.

I don't understand why that speed is a problem ? 250kt CAS isn't a crazy speed to refuel a jet fighter !

What's the default speed?  That's what I left it at and it worked.  250 seems pretty slow .

[jojo]

15 hours ago, rob10 said:

What's the default speed?  That's what I left it at and it worked.  250 seems pretty slow .

The default speed is around 226kt ground speed, meaning that at 6 000ft your air speed is even slower.

I was trying to set 272kt ground speed to get 250kt of air speed.

But that’s the problem with the the recovery tanker function.

As far as I'm concerned, that speed limit around 260kt ground speed is a bug.

Edited November 14 by jojo

[rob10]

OK, had some time to look at this in more detail.  What mods do you have installed?  Have you ran a repair since you uninstalled any mods?  This feels very much like a mod (or mod leftovers issue).
With your .miz I see what you're seeing.  The S3 starts doing a circular orbit.

However, if I recreate the mission fresh (only added the carrier and S3) I have no issues with the S3 doing a racetrack orbit.  I set it to 275 kts and 6,000 ft and added recover tanker on WP 1 (no issue with that) and it does a nice racetrack.  Something is messed up in your original .miz (which is what makes me think leftover mod).  Try recreating the basics in a fresh mission and see if it works.  I've attached my working version.

Tanker at 275 kts racetrack.miz

[jojo]

I don't have any mod on the core installation.

I had a few AI aircraft mods in saved games, but I removed them.

I'll try a repair.

Also the starting point was improving a mission done by a friend.

I might as well start over from scratch...