A10 CDU with Touchbuddy ore Touchpal

[Gandi]

Hi all,

 

The last Days i work on my own draw CDU Panel for the A10.

My next step is to Animate alle the Buttons for the Push function

 

Step 3 Build the Layout in Touchbuddy ore Touchpal

Step 4 are script with Touchbuddy ore Touchpal.

 

Step 4 i never do bevor, so someone whant to help me with the scripting maybe? :)

 

 

Cya Gandi

 

P.s Sorry for my Bad English !!

[RogueRunner]

Nice. I haven't played with TB for ages. Might just give it a whirl with this again though.

[gofrm76]

Sieht echt gut aus. :thumbup:

Hast du das alles selbst gezeichnet, oder hast du die Grafiken irgendwie aus A10 exportiert?

Dem Aussehen nach würde ich sagen teils/teils...

 

Hast du schon herausgefunden wie du an den Text im Display kommst, oder soll der nicht live sein?

 

Ich wollte so ein CDU für das iPad bauen. Nach längerem Suchen im Forum und in den entsprechenden lua-Files konnte ich leider keine Vorgehensweise finden den Text vom CDU-Display aus der Sim zu exportieren. Auch die Drehregler könnten in TB schwer werden. Da es sich hier im Prinzip um Buttons mit mehr Zuständnen als nur 'ein' und 'aus' handelt und das meines Wissens in TB bis 1.3 nicht unterstützt wird.

 

Bisher habe ich Testhalber mal das AHCP in C# programmiert, welches ich über AirDisplay auf dem iPad laufen lasse. Wie oben schon angedeutet hätte ich an einem CDU in dieser Form Interesse. Wenn sich die offenen Fragen klären lassen könnten wir uns vielleicht gegenseitig helfen. In Kunst habe ich in der Schule immer gefehlt. :smilewink:

Edited November 24, 2010 by gofrm76

[hassata]

Hi:

 

I've been waiting for this but am similarly script challenged. I will post in the TB forum and hopefully get Snacko to offer some guidance/ I think TB would definitely be the easiest route for the cdu.

 

EDIT: output of the CDU display is unlikely unless some talented people can figure it out with TB, or SCSimulations work out how to extract in as part of their HELIOS software.

Edited November 24, 2010 by hassata

[Gandi]

@gofrm76

 

Hast du das alles selbst gezeichnet

 

Ja hab das die letzten 3 Tage zusammengebastelt " nur der Display text hab ich zu veranschaulichung aus A10 rausgezogen"

 

Hast du schon herausgefunden wie du an den Text im Display kommst, oder soll der nicht live sein?

 

Wen man es in TB umsetzt kann man es 100% nicht live einspielen wie mein wissens stand ist. Das wьrde dan wohl nur mit Touchpal funktionieren.

 

Hier is schon einer dabei fьr Blackshark was zu basteln

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=45721 wen ich das richtig verstehe hat der das schon mit einer Live ansicht integriert.

 

CDU-Display aus der Sim zu exportieren

 

Ja das is jetzt meine aktuell frage, geht es wird es gehen zu einer spдteren Version oder kann man alternativ das rechte mfd 2 mal einblenden lassen das wen ich auf das CDU schalte wenigstens eine life ansicht habe.

 

Vieleicht wollen wir uns mal im TS zusammensetzten bisl quatschen wen du willst vieleicht bekommen wir ja was auf die Beine :) !!

[gofrm76]

EDIT: output of the CDU display is unlikely unless some talented people can figure it out with TB, or SCSimulations work out how to extract in as part of their HELIOS software.

 

my problem here is not how to get it INTO the remote-app like TB because in my case it's a custom selfmade application. my problem is how to get it OUT of the sim. (thats what i wrote in my earlier post in german). i didn't find anything in the lua-files to export. gandi had that idea of taking the cdu-backup mfd but if the TB(whatever)-app is not running on localhost it would require transmitting the mfd-image over the network and thats something i don't want/know how to do. i want to use the export.lua solely for that job.

[gofrm76]

Hier is schon einer dabei fьr Blackshark was zu basteln

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=45721 wen ich das richtig verstehe hat der das schon mit einer Live ansicht integriert.

 

....

 

3. TouchPal does not have any client/server capability, it is designed to run on the same machines as the game.

 

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Das ist aber leider nicht ganz was ich mir Vorstelle.

Die App sollte schon auf einem anderen Rechner laufen können, in dem Fall müssten die Daten übers Netz übertragen werden, das wird mit dem Liveimage nicht so leicht hinhauen...

[hassata]

If you are familiar with Dick Dastardly's profile for Blackshark, he was able to export the Shkval and Abris to his profile. I don't know those two outputs were configurable to other screens like our MFDs or by lua. TB profile does allow for transparent layers, so you could get display of the RWR and weapons payload indicators to a profile in FC2. Take a look here: http://www.touch-buddy.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=4

 

Bottom line, I think it may be doable by lua. but it's going to take a little investigating, which SCS have indicated they might do for later HELIOS versions.

[Gandi]

@gofrm76 auf seite 13 oder ihrgendwo hat er Client Server funktion dan eingebaut dachte am anfag auch scheise :)

 

@hassata yeah i see the BS profile from Dick !! i think i need to send him a PM with many questions :)

 

Here is my Vision for the Nightfly !!

and now i have to made dam f... many buttons :)

 

[gofrm76]

he was able to export the Shkval and Abris to his profile. I don't know those two outputs were configurable to other screens like our MFDs or by lua.

 

the creator of touchpal statet in one post that his application is designed to run localhost with the game only, maybe that is because he faced the same problems like i do.

 

for the cdu-text the best solution would be to have only the characters exported like the DED in F4AF. this way, you need less bandwith over the network and you could even build a real-life digital-display for more advanced/sophisticated sim-pits.

Edited November 26, 2010 by gofrm76

[gofrm76]

@gofrm76 auf seite 13 oder ihrgendwo hat er Client Server funktion dan eingebaut dachte am anfag auch scheise :)

 

Danke. Habs gleich mal überfolgen. Hab aber nichts zum MFD (bzw. ABRIS/Shkval)-Export gefunden. Ich befürchte, die Netzwerkfunktionalität beinhaltet genau dieses nicht. Lasse mich aber gerne eines besseren belehren...

[hassata]

This is great-I hope you guys make some headway. Just to be clear and as I'm sure you know, Touchbuddy (as opposed to Touchpal) can run in several instances on the same machine and across the network at the same time. So its possible to run an instance locally displaying, for example, and UFC panel, and another instance on a networked machine displaying the CDU or any other panel included in the profile.

 

Edit: Just a suggestion-possibly incorporate a graphic for the panel with the Generator, Battery and Inverter switches? In touchbuddy it can be included as a separate tab to the CDU and would allow for engine start without cockpit clicks (provided you also have the WH).

Edited November 25, 2010 by hassata

[Gandi]

Hi go,

 

hab heute die ersten Buttons "Animiert" is ne scheis Arbeit. Die Wippen haben mich ein wenig aufgehalten weil ich keinen plan hatte wie ich das umsetzten soll. Mit den drehschaltern hast du wohl recht da hab ich noch garkeine lösung gefunden !! Die restlichen Buttons werd ich morgen wohl so weit fertig haben !!

Ich häng mal die TB datei an wen du kucken willst.

Wie gesagt ist aktuell nur ein reiner Animationstest, bei den tasten is noch nichts hinterlegt.

 

 

First try to rebuild my Grafiks in TB, the attach File is only a Button Animation test !!

CDU.rar

[Jinja]

Is it possible for any of the ED team to give quick yes/no answers to whether the CDU text is extractable via LUA? And if not, if it will be possible at some point in the future?

[Jinja]

oh yeah, should have said, love the work Gandi!

 

I have lots of experience with client-server data communication within .Net.

If LUA did support extraction of information from CDU (lines of text and button states; don't need no full graphics-rendering info), I could have a working app (using Gandi's graphics) in just a weekend....

[Gandi]

Hi all me again :)

 

1 Attachment V0.1 :) incl all Grafiks, a working TB Profile for the most Buttons only the Steer Button and the 2 rotrays are not Working. The Keyboard lua for DCS A10 are includet too. So if anyone have a idea to get the CDU Screen in there do it, send to me, and then tell my how hehe :)

 

@Jinja thx and im looking forward to a app !!

 

Sorry for my Bad english :)

CDU.rar

Edited November 26, 2010 by Gandi

[hassata]

If my touch screen is at a resolution of 720x1280 (iirc), is there an easy way for me to stretch and lengthen the CDU image? Thanks

[droz]

I'd love to get this figured out how to export it to TouchBuddy. I'm in the process of building my own custom Touchbuddy profile onto my 10" touchscreen monitor, and the CDU panel is one of them. If anyone figures this out, I'd love to know.

[hassata]

nice-please post when you are done droz.

[droz]

nice-please post when you are done droz.

 

Yup, will do. Gonna take a little while, but I think I should have it done before A-10C goes live :)

[Slick Twitchy]

Fantastic guys. I am a little new at the Touchbuddy stuff (DD spoiled me with his step-by-step instructions in BS).

 

I got your graphic up and running, but A-10 does not respond to the buttons being touched from TouchBuddy. Do I have to configure anything in the programs (either Touchbuddy or A-10)?

I know in BS I needed to alter some export files, and .luas. I just don't know which ones...

Edited December 3, 2010 by Slick Twitchy

[hassata]

Droz-are you planning on incorporating the battery, inverter, and generator switches into your profile?

 

Thanks

[droz]

Droz-are you planning on incorporating the battery, inverter, and generator switches into your profile?

 

Thanks

 

I'm going to try. I haven't had any time to work on it though because life caught back up with me unfortunately. (long story). I'm going to get back to work on it as soon as I can.

 

I want to create a tab for startup/shutdown procedures.

[hassata]

Great-thanks. Take care of business first though.

[jireland607]

If you are familiar with Dick Dastardly's profile for Blackshark, he was able to export the Shkval and Abris to his profile. I don't know those two outputs were configurable to other screens like our MFDs or by lua. TB profile does allow for transparent layers, so you could get display of the RWR and weapons payload indicators to a profile in FC2. Take a look here: http://www.touch-buddy.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=4

 

Bottom line, I think it may be doable by lua. but it's going to take a little investigating, which SCS have indicated they might do for later HELIOS versions.

 

Reading your post, not sure if you realised or not so sorry if I'm just repeating. Dick Dastardly's profile does not extract any data from BlackShark. He has just created two transparent areas in his profile which allows you to see the displays which are actually under it. You can get raw data from the LUA files but if you wanted it in a display, you would have to recreate the code to build the MFCD or CDU displays.