jazjar Posted December 29, 2010 Posted December 29, 2010 Is everyone aware of the problems in the two campaigns ? ( "Devil's Cross" and the other one that's not "The Shore" ) In Devil's Cross, the JTAC doesn't work, in the other one I am currently stuck on mission 3-1 chiefly because The two groups, "Mace" and "Pine" stop halfway to their objectives and don't finish their route. Also, in the same mission, ( which is "offensive CAS" by the way, these issues probably apply to all "offensive CAS" missions ) which is at night, I cannot find the tanks that the JTAC gives to me because his IR pointer does not work. This means once I slew my TGP FLIR to the target, I can only find the one right under my crosshairs, and then after I'm done with that one, I have to manually search for more of them, which is very difficult because the hot ground seems to hide the tanks, making life very difficult. ( hmm... it's 'White Hot" why is the ground at night which is receiving no sun turn up white in my FLIR?) I just wanted to check to make sure that it isn't me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Madman777 Posted December 29, 2010 Posted December 29, 2010 I believe with Mace & Pine groups you need to send them both a message again to keep going. They stop halfway and wait for you to order them to continue. As for the JTAC not working, just find the enemy tanks and kill them without JTAC. The direction the turrets are facing and map intel should give you an idea of friend and foe. i7-12700k, 32GB Ram, RTX 3060 12GB, TrackIR 5, Lots of SSD Space, etc etc DCS World - All the cool modules
jazjar Posted December 29, 2010 Author Posted December 29, 2010 Interesting, I will have to try this in Devil's Cross for the time being, looks like JTAC for this mission will have to be fixed manually or I'll have to wait for the final release. My primary concern with the Georgian Oil War MIssions ( that's what it is, right?) JTAC is that his IR pointer doesn't work, meaning that I have to pause the aircraft and spend time trying to pick T-72s out of the ineffective FLIR. WHen I say ineffective, I mean that in WHOT, the background is hot, as well as my targets, meaning I have to spend time trying to find them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team Wags Posted December 30, 2010 ED Team Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) Interesting, I will have to try this in Devil's Cross for the time being, looks like JTAC for this mission will have to be fixed manually or I'll have to wait for the final release. My primary concern with the Georgian Oil War MIssions ( that's what it is, right?) JTAC is that his IR pointer doesn't work, meaning that I have to pause the aircraft and spend time trying to pick T-72s out of the ineffective FLIR. WHen I say ineffective, I mean that in WHOT, the background is hot, as well as my targets, meaning I have to spend time trying to find them. Most JTAC calls will be Type 3, not Type 1 or 2. So, use SADL to get eyes and sensors on target (designate red diamond on TAD as SPI). From there, play the the contract and brightness of TGP to best locate targets around the directed JTAC point. I would also advise that once SPI is set at JTAC designation that wingman be ordered to "Engage With..." at target location (Missile / Armor). Edited December 30, 2010 by Wags Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
jazjar Posted December 31, 2010 Author Posted December 31, 2010 That makes sense, hmm... I always do designate the red diamond as a SPI, but the problem is the tanks are placed far apart, so I have to manually sweep the camera left and right, this is problematic because the T-72's top in the game is well... cold! this means in WHOT the top for the tank and most of the tank itself is black, blending in with the pattern of black and white in the background ( shouldn't the ground be cold at night?) So it is very difficult for me to pick the target out, and I have to go through a long, grueling process to find it, longer than it should take. I'll try what you said about playing with contrast and brightness. Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
E-Rock Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 The ground may still be "hot" at night and the same applies for urban areas with lots of buildings. They soak up heat during the day and cools down to ambient temperature over time at night. Have you ever walked outside in barefeet on a summer night? ;) I'm not sure if ground radiant heat is modelled in the sim but that's the only explanation I can come up with.
Wagner Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 The two groups, "Mace" and "Pine" stop halfway to their objectives and don't finish their route. Got this problem once. Watch if one of the vehicules is not stuck. Shoot them with AGM so they can go on !!! :joystick: :) Win10 64 / Intel Core i5-9400F/ 32Go RAM / GeForce GTX 2070s / HOTAS Warthog french speaking here... Callsign ZeeWag on DCS Callsign "Wagner" since 1998 (Falcon 4.0, Longbow II...)
jazjar Posted January 2, 2011 Author Posted January 2, 2011 Yeah, so I order them to move forward to their final objective, "Indiana", and to help the wait I hop over to the other JTAC to have some fun, before I know it, I get " Pine destroyed, MIssion failed" I go, "WTF!" and check them out, and I find a bunch of burnt Bradley hulks. The M1s then come by the Bradleys and they start getting shot at by the invisible T-72s as well, soon, they are destroyed. I then perform a ragequit ( whatever that is ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mtuckner Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 jazjar, sometimes they are hard to find and yes, I find the FLIR contrast to be extremely lacking compared to reality. The tank platoons are generally when not moving in a line formation. They can be far apart, but they are generally going to be one to the left, and one to the right of the diamond mark as the JTAC is marking the middle one. When I can't find the last one because everything is nearly the same temperature then I order the wingman in to destroy armor at my SPI with Mavericks since he is a psychic eagle eye.
jazjar Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 Hey if you are having trouble with your FLIR, try this. ( I found this solution of the "Will The FLIR Be Improved?" Forum in "Avionics and Weapons" It is my forum :) ) When you are in the FLIR mode, you know, on the OSBs there is a function that selects between "LVL" and "GAIN". There are arrow keys above this OSB and by using them, you can affect the contrast of the FLIR, and from what I have seen with screenshots, the contrast difference is quite marvelous, so please be sure to try this out. When I get the computer back up and running again with Windows 7, I'll be sure to try this! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
luza Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Something doesn't have to be hot to emmit and infared signature. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Forza42 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 someone have already success this mission ? 3rd time i tried ..... failed failed faild. the main issue is, i think, that rearm didn t worked (for me). So i had not enough ammo to kill new serie of tank (4 or 8) at the last destination :(
PeteKorm Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 hey forza, im like at my 13th try for this mission, and me too I was missing some agm... you can go and reload at batumi (but its far) or you can go to a nearest airport, sorry dont remember the name. But you can definitly rearm in this mission, just dont forget to turn on the intercom (all the way down to the first click - INT), ask ground crew, rearm and takeoff. next time im going to have it, im just having some problems getting a lock with mavericks on the reinforcements.
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