Ryrrar Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 So, like many others, I recently received the TrackIR5 in the mail, and I'm excited to use it. Problem is, I have just about no idea what I'm doing. I've looked through the manual and I'm still kinda lost. All these axis' and stuff is confusing. I've read that Wags profile is pretty awesome, but I've installed it in TrackIR and I'm still having trouble. It doesn't seem to recognize that I'm looking straight ahead in the cockpit, and that's the biggest problem I have I think. It's always skewed to the left or right for some reason, even though I'm straight in the TrackIR program and it's set up straight on top of my tv/monitor. It's also not recognizing my pause/center keys during the game. While I'm in the TrackIR program, it responds to pause/center just fine, but when I start up DCS A10, it doesn't seem to recognize it. The only thing the game seems to recognize is that my head is moving, even if it's all over the place. I've also tried lowering the speed and upping the smoothness, but it's still jerky as hell during the game, almost to a point that it's unplayable with TIR. I've read most/all of the threads regarding TrackIR, and I'm still having these problems. Can someone give me a super newbie tutorial? Thanks! Chris
sobek Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 To center, you have to look straight at your monitor and then press the center key, TrackIR only tracks your movement from where you told it that your center is. Try to center it properly, then start from there with your profile. Note that as a noobie, it might take some training to be able to utilize an advanced users profile, because you are not used to making such small and precise head movements. Turning down the sensitivity and turning it back up as you advance might be a good choice. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Ryrrar Posted January 7, 2011 Author Posted January 7, 2011 What about the profile I create? I don't even think anything changes with I use Wags profile...is his profile even running? None of the F keys work and I made his profile exclusive and all that. Hell, when I'm looking straight at the screen, it sometimes shows the left wing of the aircraft... I'm so confused/discouraged.
bavella1 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Try some keys that aren't used by DCS:A-10. Can't tell you the right ones due to I'm using a german keyboard layout. Then point out that there are no backlights interfere with your TrackIR. May be a light or sunshine from window. - Check the "Camera view" in the upper right corner. You've got to see only the reflectors shown in green. All other green and red indications are driving ur TrackIR crazy. Edited January 7, 2011 by bavella1
Ryrrar Posted January 7, 2011 Author Posted January 7, 2011 The keys are set to stuff that isnt used by DCS A10, and it's pitch black in my room and its 230am :) There's only the three green pickups in the camera view
sobek Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Hell, when I'm looking straight at the screen, it sometimes shows the left wing of the aircraft... You simply haven't grasped the concept of centering yet. :) By pressing the center key, you are telling TrackIR: 'I'm looking straight at my monitor now, let this be the center from now on.' TrackIR will then also center your ingame view. So what i need you to do is look straight at the middle of your monitor and press center.:) A good choice for a center key would be middle mouse, e.g., if you have a depressable mouse wheel or the likes. It is completely unused in DCS. Edit: Don't try to jump into the sim right away, because it will cost you a lot of time going in and out of it. Just sit down with TrackIR and it's display and play with some parameters until you find out what they do, then adjust them to meet your needs. After the TIR display reacts as you please, go into the sim and have fun. Edited January 7, 2011 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Ryrrar Posted January 7, 2011 Author Posted January 7, 2011 Yeah I'm going to have to experiment some more I guess. I've been playing with it for 2+ hours and I still have no idea what the certain axis things do on the linear scale. I haven't noticed much a difference. Thanks for the help :)
rextar Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 hi PRESS f12 it should centre your head when you are in cockpit Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
WarriorX Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Hi Ryrrar, First off, welcome to the fourms and congratulations on purchasing one of the most immersive PC peripherals in my humble opinion. Follow Sobek's advice, he is right. The axis are set up like this: Yaw is turning your head left/right in the horizontal plane from a fixed position. (Think turning your head left/right to look to cross a street) Pitch is the vertical axis that models your head looking straight up at the sky and back down at your toes. X axis is the horizontal, shift your head position left/right on the horizontal plane. (think shifting your head to the left/right in a seat to see around the head of a person in front of you in a theater) Y axis is the vertical, raise your head position up/down on the vertical plane. (think sitting up higher in a seat to see over the head of a person in front of you in a theater) Roll axis is like tilting your head from side to side. (think putting your left ear to your left shoulder and right ear to your right shoulder) Z axis is the zoom axis and it models you moving your head closer and further away from the camera. Regarding the F1-F12 keys, avoid using these for anything in TrackIR with DCS A-10C as the Sim uses them for the Communication Menu. Hope this helps. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
rextar Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 warrior regardless of input it does make a differance when you select f1-f12 regarding track ir Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
WarriorX Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 warrior regardless of input it does make a differance when you select f1-f12 regarding track ir Hi Rextar, I'm sorry, I am not quite following you. To reiterate, I advise to not use the F1 thru F12 keys as functions in the TrackIR profile you use for DCS A-10C..... as DCS A-10C uses these keys in the Communication Menu. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
Bulletstop Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) In my profile I use the num pad - key for centering. In dcs I removed what ever was linked to that key, I believe it was a view key. I removed it becasue with Trackir I do not need it. In the track ir software it has views which show what your head is doing in relation to the camera. I suggest bringing it up to give you a visual repensentation of what all the axis are doing. If you read the manaul it should sound familiar. In the default profile f12 is the centering key. It will take some time to get used to it and you will find small movements make big changes to the view. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Bullet Edited January 8, 2011 by Bulletstop damn my grammer sucks,lol I7 4790K running at 4390 with a gigabyte board with 16 gigs of ram with an Asus gtx 660-ti and 2 tb of hard drive space on 2 wd hard drives. A X-65F Hotas with trackir4 and pro combat peddles. A kick butt home built machine unfortunately running a windows 7 OS.
Ryrrar Posted January 8, 2011 Author Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks Warrior. When I adjust those in TrackIR, what does it do? make those areas stiffer? I change them, but never notice a change in the actual motion/view.
WarriorX Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 All changes will revolve around 2 ideas. And these 2 ideas can be changed independently for each of the 6 axis described above. First is changing how much X degrees of physical head rotation translates into X degrees of "in game head" rotation. You can make your own head movements more or less drastic in the game. Lastly, is that you can change how the TrackIR presents your head movement in terms of smoothness of tracking. You can adjust it to be a near 1to1 representation of your actual head movements or a smoothed out representation. All of these things are in the TrackIR Manual. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
snakeeyesuk Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 its would sem trackir does not run when running in 64 bit mode on win 7
snakeeyesuk Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 its would sem trackir does not run when running in 64 bit mode on windows 7
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