Sadist_Cain Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 howdy all, only been playing a week or so and my first post here so apologies if this has been asked before, I have searched but to no avail at finding someone with a similar query... firstly I hit upon what appears to be a bug with mark points, selecting the Mark dial on the CDU brings up Anapa airfield (not all the time, need to find out the exact circumstances) and dosnt give me any option to scroll through mark points I create. That's for another post but in short, I lost my ability to place and steer onto a Mark point. I thought I understood correctly that by using the TGP to set a SPI whilest in point track (or area) mode using tms fwd long it would set the SPI to that point, allow me to slew my tgp around and have a lookey about for other targets then use china hat fwd long to slave back to the SPI I created. reading the docs this apparently is not the case, instead the SPI will lock onto the TGP crosshairs and go wherever it goes. Yet with the TDC in the hud I can set the spi wherever I like on the ground? eh? :S so what on earth do I do... I've just got a JTAC in and I enter it all into the CDU and slew to the waypoint, I search for targets and away from the JTAC mark I find a truck so it's hard to find again when the JTAC waypoint is set as SPI, I want to set that truck as a SPI (preferably with the tgp) so I dont lose track of it and then be able to search around it for AA and if I don't find any auto slew BACK to the truck I set initially I'm more than happy doing this with mark points and queuing up targets A, B, C etc and slewing to them accordingly but how does one do this if my mark points have bugged out on me? Should I be setting the TGP as SPI on the truck, shift over my SOI to the hud and then (auto?) slew the TDC to the TGPs SPI then "hand over" the SPI to the TDC so I'd be free to move my TGP around without dragging the SPI all over the shop with it and then use china hat fwd long to track back onto the TDC SPI (which would be on said truck) Can't the TGP just set me a Dam SPI where I'm looking at the time and leave it there until I press tms fwd long to reset it?? :joystick: Many thanks
GGTharos Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 The behavior you want is repllicated by using markpoints. The SPI is almost always dependent on the current sensor - ie. if your sensor has set the SPI, it can continue setting it - ergo moving it sets a new SPI. I see you've found a workaround that works for you ;) As for the markpoint bug, known and fixed, IIRC. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
159th_Viper Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Welcome :) firstly I hit upon what appears to be a bug with mark points, selecting the Mark dial on the CDU brings up Anapa airfield (not all the time, need to find out the exact circumstances) and dosnt give me any option to scroll through mark points I create. That's for another post but in short, I lost my ability to place and steer onto a Mark point. We'll need to see a track (Edit: What GG said). ...reading the docs this apparently is not the case, instead the SPI will lock onto the TGP crosshairs and go wherever it goes. The SPI does not lock onto the TGP crosshairs. The TGP is the SPI-Generator, ie it is telling the IFFCC where the SPI is at any given time. It accordingly stands to reason that if the TGP cross-hairs move, the SPI has to move along with it. The SPI is a 3D point in Space and Time and not just in space. Yet with the TDC in the hud I can set the spi wherever I like on the ground? eh? :S With the HUD as SOI, using the TDC to generate the SPI will result in exactly the same behaviour as I described above, ie the SPI will move as you slew the TDC around in the HUD. so what on earth do I do... Never had a problem with mark-points personally via the TAD. Alternatively, another suggestion would be to note the co-ordinates of the targets, search and prosecute accordingly. Can't the TGP just set me a Dam SPI where I'm looking at the time and leave it there until I press tms fwd long to reset it?? It does - you are tasking the TGP to generate a SPI by TMS Fwd Long. It's up to you to allocate another sensor as SPI-Generator if you want to utilize the TGP to scan without slewing the SPI around as a consequence. I'd utilize a Maverick seeker in the circumstances described if Mark-Points are not available. As an aside, why are you bothering with the CDU when it comes to mark-points? Just mark, set steer-point dial to mark and navigate through markpoints via TAD with DMS Fwd/Aft when HUD is SOI, alternatively with the Steer-point rocker switch on the UFC. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Sadist_Cain Posted June 29, 2011 Author Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Welcome :) We'll need to see a track (Edit: What GG said). Thankyou good sir, I fully intend to replicate the effects in a track as it's happened to me twice now and I'm fairly sure I can figure out what's cracking. the effect is I have the HUD locked with Anapa as a steerpoint. The CDU repeater page on the MFCD is showing mark point A as it was just generated, and the steerpoint dial is set to MARK and as I understand it, therefore only markpoints should showing. DMS up n down nor the rocker will change the HUD steerpoint from Anapa nor will creating new mark points, however they all show as being created within the CDU. Mission and Flight plan all work properly, mark points is fixed on Anapa, when it shouldnt even be able to show it in the first place. With the HUD as SOI, using the TDC to generate the SPI will result in exactly the same behaviour as I described above, ie the SPI will move as you slew the TDC around in the HUD. Sadist_Cain Can't the TGP just set me a Dam SPI where I'm looking at the time and leave it there until I press tms fwd long to reset it?? 159th_Viper It does - you are tasking the TGP to generate a SPI by TMS Fwd Long. It's up to you to allocate another sensor as SPI-Generator if you want to utilize the TGP to scan without slewing the SPI around as a consequence. Right on, now if I'm with you completely I can trade off the SPI to the TDC and be free to roam with the TGP, if summit is tasked with SPIing then it must continue to SPI :D As an aside, why are you bothering with the CDU when it comes to mark-points? Just mark, set steer-point dial to mark and navigate through markpoints via TAD with DMS Fwd/Aft when HUD is SOI, alternatively with the Steer-point rocker switch on the UFC. that's exactly what I'd normally do, I'm just using it in this instance to confirm I set the mark right in the first place by checking it on the cdu, as I say and Airstrip coming up in mark mode is a bit off so a track will be on the way shortly. thanks muchly all for your prompt replies I think I've wrapped my head around this one at last :pilotfly: Edited June 29, 2011 by Sadist_Cain
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