jp203000 Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 one of the most beautiful scenes we may see when plane is flying in the sky is the airflow flowing through the wings. how can we miss it .don't you think so?:)
Impact Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 one of the most beautiful scenes we may see when plane is flying in the sky is the airflow flowing through the wings. how can we miss it .don't you think so?:) I would rather have the air flowing around the wings. ------=:: I FLY BLEIFREI ::=------
sunny_hk Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Hmmm..what is the difference between flowing around the wing and flowing through the wings? as you point it out, please explain.
effte Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 http://www.dictionary.com - Great help for those of us writing in English without it being our own language. Through = hole in the wing. Probably not exactly what the OP was about. :) (The exceptions would be multiplane aircraft - triplanes etc - and aircraft equipped with slotted flaps/slats. There the air can flow through the wings.) ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
jp203000 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) www.dictionary.com - Great help for those of us writing in English without it being our own language. Through = hole in the wing. Probably not exactly what the OP was about. :) (The exceptions would be multiplane aircraft - triplanes etc - and aircraft equipped with slotted flaps/slats. There the air can flow through the wings.) Thank you ,i realized i'd made a mistake. i just mean the air flow around the wings while the pilot is pulling a high g . i wonder why the fantastic scene didn't appear in A10C like it did in open falcon 4.7 which is much an older game than A10C . i think if ED can make it ,we will enjoy the game even more. Edited August 7, 2011 by jp203000
effte Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 You're talking about wing tip vortices, and they were added quite some time ago. Smoke (really condensed water vapour) streaming off the wing tips when pulling hard. When initially added, they appeared way too soon/often in DCS:A10C. Don't know if it has been adjusted since. Regarding mist forming over the wing, that's much rarer on straight wings than on delta wings, such as on the F-16. On the A-10, seeing it would very much be the exception, so I can't say I miss it. ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
jp203000 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) You're talking about wing tip vortices, and they were added quite some time ago. Smoke (really condensed water vapour) streaming off the wing tips when pulling hard. When initially added, they appeared way too soon/often in DCS:A10C. Don't know if it has been adjusted since. Regarding mist forming over the wing, that's much rarer on straight wings than on delta wings, such as on the F-16. On the A-10, seeing it would very much be the exception, so I can't say I miss it. nice talking to you , because my english is not good , sometimes i can't make myself understood , really appreicate your help!:thumbup: after all , both of us are big fans of this fantastic aircraft . Edited August 7, 2011 by jp203000
Speed Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I donno about air never flowing through wings. I usually fly too high for it to happen to me, but I see a lot of air flowing through other people's wings in multiplayer. Especially after they go on ill-advised gun-runs. :D So if I get hit it's usually by a missile, and I don't get much time to admire the air flowing through my wings :( Edited August 7, 2011 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Frostiken Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) The way I understood it, the reason you get the air condensing over the body / wings in aircraft is because their movement is creating a lot of negative pressure behind the areas where it's formed, essentially 'sucking' the pressure so low that the clouds appear. In order for this to happen you need a wide body, high speed, and high AOA. The A-10 doesn't really have any of these. In very humid conditions you can get them off the wings, but the A-10 simply can't hold onto enough speed at high-AOA maneuvers to make it happen the way an F-16 can. If you really like it, wait for the DCS: F-15E, because it's such a colossally fat fuselage almost every maneuver in moist conditions will cause it :D Edited August 7, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
genbrien Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 almost every maneuver in moist conditions will cause it :D that's what she said :music_whistling::D Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
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RPY Variable Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) 0:48 you can see it in the wings. With heavy loads I suppose the effect would be much stronger. Edited August 7, 2011 by mikel.132 Interl i7 6700k - 32Gb RAM DDR4 - RX 590 8GB - Sentey 32"2560x1440 - Saitek X-55 - TrackIr 3
jp203000 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 0:48 you can see it in the wings. With heavy loads I suppose the effect would be much stronger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4JNuNTGH3E please watch this video , i can say it's sth that you will not want to miss .
Agg Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 It baffles me why there are no vapor effects in the DCS-series, the wing tip vorticies are better than nothing, but they look a bit weird compared to the real thing. Some vapor effects would really add to the immersion, and lets face it, it looks damn cool ;) If the next DCS aircraft is a Hornet then not adding vapor effects would be blasphemy :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKzzp0LuMIw As you can see the Hog generates quite a bit of vapor if the conditions are right.
Frostiken Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4JNuNTGH3E please watch this video , i can say it's sth that you will not want to miss . Yeah I'll pass on trying to find out what moment of a 4-minute video is relevant to this thread. the next DCS aircraft a Hornet would be blasphemy Agreed! Edited August 10, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Booger Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Weather conditions must be fitting for it to happen. As it was mentioned earlier, if there's a bit of moisture in the air, the marking will be prominent. If the air is very dry, it simply won't happen.
effte Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 As you can see the Hog generates quite a bit of vapor if the conditions are right. "When the conditions are right" is the crucial phrase here. Anything will generate condensation if the conditions are right enough. I've seen Herkybirds take off with massive tunnels of condensation from all propellers, and with condensation forming over the entire wing on rotation. Impressive, but rare. You get to a point where a phenomenon is too rare to model, and condensation (apart from vortices) on the A-10 would belong in this category IMO. Not that I wouldn't like to see it, but there are about a gazillion things I'd give higher priority over a phenomenon I'd only see once in a blue moon while looking over my shoulder while manoeuvring hard. I agree that it should be there on the F-18, or any aircraft capable of generating vortex lift! Cheers, Fred ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
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