Multi-Monitor DCS:BLACKSHARK

thinkr · October 9, 2011

Running WinXP PRO 32bit 1 video card ATI 4870

Are there any suggestions for reading which will help me setup my 2 montiors

Main Monitor 1 on left 1280x1024 Monitor 2 on right 1024x768

I was hoping to be able to view the Shikval+Abris on the right monitor and the main monitor have everything else.

Is the Phantom Monitor Fix the way to go still?

Have there been any updates or better methods since the beginning?

Any Help would be appreciated. :book:

This is how far I got Seleted in Options menu the MultiMonitor Shikval+Camera

Editing with Notpad++

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\BlackShark\data\scripts\options.lua

CODE UPDATED TO REFLECT LAST POST:



["graphics"] =

	{

        ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "shkval+camera",

        ["color"] = "32",

        ["heatBlr"] = 0,

        ["scenes"] = "medium",

        ["water"] = 2,

        ["fullScreen"] = false,

        ["visibRange"] = "High",

        ["aspect"] = 1.25,

       {

            ["avi"] = 

            {

                ["bpp"] = 32,

                ["resolution"] = "1024x768",

                ["full_screen"] = false,

                ["aspect"] = 1.333333333,

                ["height"] = 768,

                ["width"] = 1024,

            }, -- end of ["avi"]

        }, -- end of ["display_mode"]	

		["textures"] = 1,

        ["shadows"] = 1,

        ["effects"] = 2,

        ["width"] = 2304,

        ["lights"] = 2,

        ["height"] = 1024,

        ["civTraffic"] = 0,

        ["resolution"] = "1280x1024",

        ["haze"] = 1,

    }, -- end of ["graphics"]

} -- end of options

[/Code]

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\Config\MonitorSetup\shkval+camera.lua

_ = function(p) return p; end;

name = _('Shkval+Camera');

Description = 'Shkval on the left monitor, camera on the right';

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = 1024;

y = 0;

width = 1280;

height = 1024;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = 3.25;

}

Shkval =

{

x = 2304;

y = 0;

width = 1024;

height = 768;

}

This didn't work when i tried it. Is my Math Off?

====================================================================

Original C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\Config\MonitorSetup\shkval+camera.lua

Shows this below for Reference.

====================================================================

_ = function(p) return p; end;

name = _('Shkval+Camera');

Description = 'Shkval on the left monitor, camera on the right';

Viewports =

{

Center =

{

x = screen.width / 2;

y = 0;

width = screen.width / 2;

height = screen.height;

viewDx = 0;

viewDy = 0;

aspect = screen.aspect / 2;

}

Shkval =

{

x = 0;

y = 0;

width = screen.width / 2;

height = screen.height;

}

Edited November 7, 2011 by thinkr

PeterP · October 9, 2011

Hello

Here is a detailed example for a setup with two identical 1929x1080 monitors as a starter.

When you compare the image with the Lua-code you should be able to understand how everything works.

_  = function(p) return p; end;
name = _('SoftTH - Center on Monitor 1 - Abris and Shkval on Monitor 2');
Description = 'SoftTH - Center on Monitor 1 - Abris and Shkval on Monitor 2';
Viewports =
{
    Center =
    {
         x = 0;
         y = 0;
         width = 1920;
         height = screen.height; -- 1080
         viewDx = 0;
         viewDy = 0;
         aspect = 1.77; -- = 1920/1080
    }
}

Shkval =
{
    x = 1920; 
    y = 169;
    width = 1087;
    height = 741;
}

ABRIS =
{
    x = 3007;
    y = 0;
    width = 833;
    height = 1080;
}

If you tell me where exactly do you want to see your abris and shkval image I would be able to make a working config for you within 5 min ( a rough scribble in ms-paint/scanned hand drawing would be absolute sufficient).

Edited October 9, 2011 by PeterP

thinkr · October 9, 2011

thx getting right on the scribble brb

Ok so I guess I don't know what would be a good Size to fit Abris+Shikval on the monitor 2 on the right 1024x768

Edited October 9, 2011 by thinkr

PeterP · October 9, 2011

OK - will be on-line the next 1,5 hour.

Don't forget to tell me how your monitors aligned to each other in windows-properties:

example:

thinkr · October 9, 2011

I guess any Size that works would be nice.

The Shikval bigger then the abris

To make things easier could you just making a config for me?

Screen 1: 1280x1024

Main Cockpit View

Screen 2: 1024x768

Shikval

Would be nice to try it out. Thx so much for your help.

I guess the Abris added would just be an added bonus I really just need the Shikval on the right.

Does this help?

DisplaySETUP3.jpg

Edited November 12, 2011 by thinkr

PeterP · October 9, 2011

use this as your "Center_on_Monitor_1_-_Shkval_on_Monitor_2.lua" code:

_  = function(p) return p; end;
name = _('Center on Monitor 1 - Shkval on Monitor 2');
Description = 'Center on Monitor 1 - Shkval on Monitor 2';
Viewports =
{
    Center =
    {
         x = 0;
         y = 0;
         width = 1280;
         height = 1024; 
         viewDx = 0;
         viewDy = 0;
         aspect = 1.25;
    }
}

Shkval =
{
    x = 1280; 
    y = 0;
    width = 1024;
    height = 768;
}

And use the Phantom monitor fix from post #1 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=37983

To be able to see all contend.

And set your overall game-reselution to 2304x1024 (= 1280+1024 x 1024) !!! Do this in the "options.lua" or in-game when available.

If you would run win7 - I would advise you to use SoftTH to be able to run in full-screen mode... but this is a whole different story...:Black Shark Twin monitor

Edited October 9, 2011 by PeterP

thinkr · October 9, 2011

I don't understand? Aligned?

I made a snap shot

thinkr · October 9, 2011

thx man your great will try it out right now +rep!

thinkr · October 9, 2011

Ok where do I put the Phantom monitor fix *.exe?

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Ka-50\bin\x86\stable

Nevermin got it! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!

IT WORKED!!!

If only it didn't take me 3 years to figure this out!

Edited October 7, 2012 by thinkr

PeterP · October 9, 2011

Please read also the post from cypher when you download from it...

This is a small fix for the phantom monitor issue when using a multi-monitor setup. Just keep the exe running in the background and it will reposition the application window once the mission is loaded.

;)

So you can put it wherever you want... just make sure you start it before you run BlackShark.

And BTW - I have no experience with this fix. - I always used SoftTH to maintain things like this.

But it works fine for others.

Edited October 9, 2011 by PeterP

PeterP · October 9, 2011

And here is the Bonus:

Center_on_Monitor_1_-_Abris_and_Shkval_on_Monitor_2.lua

_  = function(p) return p; end;
name = _('Center on Monitor 1 - Abris and Shkval on Monitor 2');
Description = 'Center on Monitor 1 - Abris and Shkval on Monitor 2';
Viewports =
{
    Center =
    {
         x = 0;
         y = 0;
         width = 1280;
         height = 1024;
         viewDx = 0;
         viewDy = 0;
         aspect = 1.25;
    }
}

Shkval =
{
    x = 1280; 
    y = 169;
    width = 574;
    height = 430;
}

ABRIS =
{
    x = 1854;
    y = 87;
    width = 450;
    height = 593;
}

This will look very similar to my example in #2.

thinkr · October 9, 2011

well thanks again you :P I'm reading it now...

whats the SoftTH about?

MTFDarkEagle · October 9, 2011

With SoftTH you can run fullscreen, meaning you will regain the FPS you lossed by switching to non-fullscreen.

It works great!

PeterP · October 10, 2011

well thanks again you :P I'm reading it now...

whats the SoftTH about?

If you are interested in this please read

the #1 post here SoftTH NEWS.

This will give you a brief overview what you can do with SoftTH.

But this will be not of any big relevance to you as you are still on winxp32 bit.

SoftTH 2.XX runs only on win7 (it is not tested on Vista by the developer but people are reporting that it runs OK on that platform).

For WinXP you need to use SoftTH v. 1.08.

But this is only of any use for you if you have tree monitors. The 1.08 version has not the ability to utilise "only" two monitors in a efficient way.

So -

until you have sufficient FPS on your system and you are quite happy with it right now - there is no need to think about SoftTH at all for you... - to use all benefits ,it could provide to you on your two monitors, you would be forced to install win7.

;)

But there is a patch for BlackShark right now in the working...

and that will update the DCS engine to the level that is used in DCS-A10c right now.

So I would like to advise you to have a serious thought about updating your system to win7-64bit to be able to run upcoming versions off BlackShark without any restrictions.

thinkr · October 10, 2011

Roger that. Thanks for the info. Yeah I have been delaying buying A10C since I have only Xp. Will it even run on XPPro 32bit anyway? I wasn't sure so I haven't bought it.

OR is it just that Dual Monitors wont run so good with A10C on XP. I know there is a benefit to FPS with Win7 but I wasn't sure if it will even run on XP32bit thats why I haven't purchased it.

PeterP · October 12, 2011

DCS-A10c will run on your system but you are good advised to use the 3GBfix for XP - and you will not see all the glory (HDR/Crisp textures) because you will sure run in memory limitations. You will also see CTD' with some heavy missions with lots of units -because of lack of memory.- things that will not happen this quick on win7 64bit

Edited October 12, 2011 by PeterP

thinkr · October 14, 2011

hmm i have 4GB of memory I realize the Xp limitations of 32bit OS. How much ram can DCS10 actually utilize in a 64bit OS will it actually beneifit from 8GB or ram

PeterP · October 14, 2011

yes! - no problem - only thinking that up to now DCS will never need 16gB -4GB is OK up to now- 6 is better and you are on the "really" save side -if you need to run other things on other cores (core 3+4) while running DCS .

Some guys with 16GB ram on this forum (sorry-no link -you have to search ...I'm sitting in a Bus) made a Ram-disc with DCS-running completely from ram -(no need to re-fetch data from HardDrive any more).....

Edited October 14, 2011 by PeterP

thinkr · October 31, 2011

Stupid me i switched back to one monitor to see if i could get on multi-player again problem encountered was the now age old buttons problem and i couldn't rename my pilot. So I switched back to single monitor and then lost my whole setup lol. Anyway it shouldn't be a problem i'm just curious the avi portion of the Options.lua do i set that to the res of my second monitor? or is that to be left at 640x480 for other purposes?

thinkr · October 31, 2011

never/mind i figured it out again so I fixed my first post to refelect. thx.

Edited November 12, 2011 by thinkr

thinkr · November 12, 2011

Hey PeterP me again. So I guess I was just in time to get BlackShark 1 Running great when Blackshark 2 came out. I Seem to have a new problem now. The code doesn't seem to be working.

I found the new options.lua in

C:\Documents and Settings\*Username*\My Documents\My Games\DCS BlackShark 2\Config\

["graphics"] = 
   {
       ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "camera+lmfcd",
       ["color"] = "32",
       ["heatBlr"] = 0,
       ["scenes"] = "medium",
       ["water"] = 0,
       ["fullScreen"] = false,
       ["visibRange"] = "High",
       ["treesVisibility"] = 6000,
       ["aspect"] = 1.25,
       ["haze"] = 1,
       ["HDR"] = 0,
       ["TranspSSAA"] = true,
       ["cockpitShadows"] = false,
       ["textures"] = 1,
       ["width"] = 2304,
       ["lights"] = 2,
       ["MSAA"] = 2,
       ["sync"] = false,
       ["height"] = 1024,
       ["civTraffic"] = "",
       ["shadows"] = 2,
       ["clutterMaxDistance"] = 0,
       ["effects"] = 3,
   }, -- end of ["graphics"]

Problem is when I added the AVI Code Section displayed below BS2 Deletes it when i run the game.

{
           ["avi"] = 
           {
               ["bpp"] = 32,
               ["resolution"] = "1024x768",
               ["full_screen"] = false,
               ["aspect"] = 1.333333333,
               ["height"] = 768,
               ["width"] = 1024,
           }, -- end of ["avi"]
       }, -- end of ["display_mode"]

so that it looks like this...

["graphics"] = 
   {
       ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "camera+lmfcd",
       ["color"] = "32",
       ["heatBlr"] = 0,
       ["scenes"] = "medium",
       ["water"] = 0,
       ["fullScreen"] = false,
       ["visibRange"] = "High",
       ["treesVisibility"] = 6000,
       ["aspect"] = 1.25,
	{
           ["avi"] = 
           {
               ["bpp"] = 32,
               ["resolution"] = "1024x768",
               ["full_screen"] = false,
               ["aspect"] = 1.333333333,
               ["height"] = 768,
               ["width"] = 1024,
           }, -- end of ["avi"]
       }, -- end of ["display_mode"]
       ["haze"] = 1,
       ["HDR"] = 0,
       ["TranspSSAA"] = true,
       ["cockpitShadows"] = false,
       ["textures"] = 1,
       ["width"] = 2304,
       ["lights"] = 2,
       ["MSAA"] = 2,
       ["sync"] = false,
       ["height"] = 1024,
       ["civTraffic"] = "",
       ["shadows"] = 2,
       ["clutterMaxDistance"] = 0,
       ["effects"] = 3,
   }, -- end of ["graphics"]

Then Blackshark starts up My Monitors show up like this.

and Options.lua is back to the first one. :doh:

I was still using the Phantom Monitor Fix And my Camera+LMFCD(on right side).lua file has this just to show you.

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS Black Shark 2\Config\MonitorSetup

_  = function(p) return p; end;
name = _('Center on Monitor 1 - Shkval on Monitor 2');
Description = 'Center on Monitor 1 - Shkval on Monitor 2';
Viewports =
{
    Center =
    {
         x = 0;
         y = 0;
         width = 1280;
         height = 1024; 
         viewDx = 0;
         viewDy = 0;
         aspect = 1.25;
    }
}

LEFT_MFCD = -- Shkval render
{
    x = 1280; 
    y = 0;
    width = 1024;
    height = 768;
}
UIMainView = Viewports.Center
UIMainView = Viewports.Center

Edited November 12, 2011 by thinkr

MTFDarkEagle · November 12, 2011

Instead of shkval and abris in your monitor lua file, use LEFT_MFCD for the shkval and RIGHT_MFCD for the abris.

PlainSight · November 12, 2011

Hey PeterP me again. So I guess I was just in time to get BlackShark 1 Running great when Blackshark 2 came out. I Seem to have a new problem now. The code doesn't seem to be working.

I found the new options.lua in

C:\Documents and Settings\*Username*\My Documents\My Games\DCS BlackShark 2\Config\
["graphics"] = 
   {
       ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "camera+lmfcd",
       ["color"] = "32",
       ["heatBlr"] = 0,
       ["scenes"] = "medium",
       ["water"] = 0,
       ["fullScreen"] = false,
       ["visibRange"] = "High",
       ["treesVisibility"] = 6000,
       ["aspect"] = 1.25,
       ["haze"] = 1,
       ["HDR"] = 0,
       ["TranspSSAA"] = true,
       ["cockpitShadows"] = false,
       ["textures"] = 1,
       ["width"] = 2304,
       ["lights"] = 2,
       ["MSAA"] = 2,
       ["sync"] = false,
       ["height"] = 1024,
       ["civTraffic"] = "",
       ["shadows"] = 2,
       ["clutterMaxDistance"] = 0,
       ["effects"] = 3,
   }, -- end of ["graphics"]

Try setting your aspect to 2.25 instead of 1.25, and swap the "name = _('Center on Monitor 1 - Shkval on Monitor 2'); " with "name = _('camera+lmfcd');" in the monitor setup file, these names must match

Edited November 12, 2011 by PlainSight

thinkr · November 13, 2011

Apparently I found a missing "}" closing marker that fixed the whole thing as well as that 2.25 vs 1.25 Aspect Ratio PlainSight found in PlainSight:megalol:

BlackShark 2 does not need Phantom Monitor Fix anylonger:music_whistling:

Edited November 13, 2011 by thinkr

thinkr · November 15, 2011

Hey Peter P I have finally installed Win7Pro with 8GB Ram I'm curious about any profiles needed to make the SoftTH work with my blackshark setup now. Reading the documentation. Just curious if you have a config or any tips to make it work?

Never Mind IT auto configured! SWEET! from 18 FPS to 34-48 FPS KICK ASS!!!

Edited November 15, 2011 by thinkr

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