New CPU / Mainboard

[MustangSally]

My temps range from 28 - 33 idle to around 55 under load. I haven't seen anything above 60deg c. Using IC Diamond Thermal Paste as well.

[galagamo]

I had an H50 for about a year, key word being 'had'. Expect eventual and exponential degradation.

I hope it lasts you forever though.

[EtherealN]

My temps range from 28 - 33 idle to around 55 under load. I haven't seen anything above 60deg c. Using IC Diamond Thermal Paste as well.

 

I get similar results - 49-52 degrees C across the cores with modest micro-OC at 1.24v (only OC being to allow 3.8 Turbo on all cores), around 58 degrees with 1.35v and 4.4 turbo, this being Prime95 stressruns. Standard paste, and it's been on almost completely 24/7 since January. (I never turn my computer off.)

 

Ambient around 23 degrees C.

 

Are there air coolers that are more effective? Yup. Are they cheaper too? Yup, slightly. Do they greatly complicate any maintenance work inside? HELL yes... ;) Up to each to decide their own priorities there, but the difference in temps with a H70 and the Noctua 14 is very very little. (And btw, Vault, check out reviews of the unit and you'll actually find it happily cooling 920's at 4GHz, keeping them below 70. 4.2GHz was the boundary on a D0-stepping 920.)

Edited October 23, 2011 by EtherealN

[Vault]

I've owned a H50, I know how bad they are from first hand experience. When I went to sell mine, Fleabay was full of them second hand. I've read the reviews but considering most of the OC community are about 9-1 against the H series of coolers tells you something. The H50 is inferiour compared to my D14 in every single aspect. Closed loop liquid coolers cool just the CPU unlike the D14 that cools the mosfets, RAM and the whole MB.

 

You can't use maintenance against the D14, I can remove it in about 2 minutes, unlike a closed loop system. You could use the fact that u need LP RAM because the HS covers DIMM's 1 & 2, but that's it.

 

You know there's a reason why the D14 is loved by the OC world. Go on any OC forums and ask D14 or H70!. 9 times out of 10 they'll say D14.

 

I remember the OC test of an H70 series cooler up against a D14. 03:58 will interest you. Do you hear the uneasy silence and BSOD?. He's running a 2600K @ 4.7ghz OC on an open aired upgraded H70 but his temps are alot higher than Mustang's claimed temps.

 

Edited October 23, 2011 by Vault

[Pilotasso]

Corsair uses different constructors for their H-series loop coolers, corsair just rebrand and sell them. The H50 and the H70 from the video you posted above are 2 very different animals entirely.

 

So you know I have an H60, with a 2500K CPU @4.5GHz and Im getting much better results inside the case than in that review with a bigger cooler. Something is a miss there. And this is my first OC, I believe I could easely push past 4.7GHZ and even 5 GHz. :)

 

EDIT: The science explanation in that video is very very shoddy. Not only he uses unoptimized fans without enough static pressure to cross the thicker H70, but he also partially blocks them. He expects to isolate the coolers by using same fans but thats completely wrong. Hes infact impacting the cooler capability directly.

 

And that explanation he gave the watter not heating up fast enought and comparing areas directly completely dismissing the different systems efficiency. He simply doesnt know what hes talking about. Watter absorbs heat much better than air and that without warming as much. Its a simple science fact he ignores. FAIL

Edited October 23, 2011 by Pilotasso

[Vault]

Corsair uses different constructors for their H-series loop coolers, corsair just rebrand and sell them. The H50 and the H70 from the video you posted above are 2 very different animals entirely.

 

So you know I have an H60, with a 2500K CPU @4.5GHz and Im getting much better results inside the case than in that review with a bigger cooler. Something is a miss there. And this is my first OC, I believe I could easely push past 4.7GHZ and even 5 GHz. :)

 

2500K and 2600K run a different temp because of HT. Sure you could but can you run it for an hour primed?. D14 can run 5ghz stable :)

 

[MustangSally]

As I have said....your mileage may vary. I've had no problems with this overclock, no bsods....perfectly stable. I can play DCS A10, CLOD etc for hours with no issues.

 

So, as far as I'M concerned, it's a great piece of kit.

Edited October 23, 2011 by MustangSally
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[MustangSally]

2500K and 2600K run a different temp because of HT. Sure you could but can you run it for an hour primed?. D14 can run 5ghz stable :)

 

Really not interested in a 5ghz overclock. 4.6 is more than enough.

[Pilotasso]

2500K and 2600K run a different temp because of HT. Sure you could but can you run it for an hour primed?. D14 can run 5ghz stable :)

 

 

AFAIK botht CPUs have similar thermal outputs (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-efficienct-32-nm,2831-2.html) and overclock equally well. Its easy to see the differences below when you dont MOD the cooler, or block it with obstructions like in the video.

Edited October 23, 2011 by Pilotasso

[Vault]

You're not understanding me, I think your running 4.6 ghz that's never been stress tested for real world temps at 4.6 ghz OC. I'm failing to see how you can get temps of 55c under load when alot of other reviews/topics I've seen show much higher temps than that on a 2600k for a H70, especially in a case. Have you stressed it with prime95 for at least an hour?.

[Vault]

AFAIK botht CPUs have similar thermal outputs and overclock equally well. Its easy to see the differences below when you dont MOD the cooler, or block it with obstructions like in the video.

 

Both 2600K's and 2500K's don't. HT increases vcore temps. No HT on 2500K. There is HT on 2600K. 2600K with HT enabled runs at a higher vcore temp, that's why temps are lower on a OC 2500k than a 2600K.

 

Nice charts but any OC'er will tell you which one is better from real world tests. I don't need to justify the D14's performance to anyone there's many OC forums that'll enlighten you to that. Those charts are based on stock not OC. Unlike closed loop passive coolers, The D14 improves the more the temps rise. Closed loop coolers with a small surface area can't dissipate the heat as quickly.

 

The fans on the D14 are far superiour in quality and performance compared to H series fans. There's no argument. I remember the noise on my H50. Enough said.

Edited October 23, 2011 by Vault

[Pilotasso]

I never said it would only get to 55c. Im testing and leave it there for couple of hours. Ill post pics here soon.

[Vault]

Lol Pilot as I've already stated your 2500K has 4 cores compared to 2600K. 2600K HT increases power consumption which increases vcore temps. HT gives 2600K 4 cores and 4 virtual cores= 8 threads. Different beast. What you testing with prime95?.

[Pilotasso]

man, they are both 95W maximum output. Its everywhere on the internet.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-efficienct-32-nm,2831-2.html

[Vault]

man, they are both 95W maximum output. Its everywhere on the internet.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-efficienct-32-nm,2831-2.html

 

The 2600K has higher vcore temps because of Hyperthreading. If you don't beleive me ask on any OC forum.

[Pilotasso]

Almost no difference at all:

 

 

My brother is using a 2600K and his temps are barely higher only because hes using an older Noctua NH12 with just 1 fan.

Edited October 23, 2011 by Pilotasso

[MustangSally]

Look, Im not, repeat not going to get into an argument regarding overclocking. Been there, done that. If you don't believe what I'm getting, well so be it. My system is stable and cool and that's all I care about.

[Vault]

Almost no difference at all:

 

 

My brother is using a 2600K and his temps are barely higher only because hes using an older Noctua NH12 with just 1 fan.

 

There's more variables than that, die quality, country of manafacture. I've seen 10c difference on some K series comparisons.

[Vault]

Look, Im not, repeat not going to get into an argument regarding overclocking. Been there, done that. If you don't believe what I'm getting, well so be it. My system is stable and cool and that's all I care about.

 

I didn't say I didn't beleive you it's just that I've seen alot of evidence to the contary for temps of 4.6ghz @ 55C. The video below shows the H70 in open air at 4.7ghz in the high 80's and at 03:58 it blue screens.

 

[Pilotasso]

There's more variables than that, die quality, country of manafacture. I've seen 10c difference on some K series comparisons.

 

If that was right (you sure your not exagerating?) the reviews and impressions you posted also falls inside this and became moot.

 

EDIT: prime 95 has been working for almost 2 hours now and my figures are better than the video @ 2:47 logging 61º min and 70 max, with 65-67 what i read in average with my H60. this is INSIDE the case and ambient temp of 28º. You still think theres nothing wrong with the video?

 

Pics will follow soon.

Edited October 23, 2011 by Pilotasso

[Vault]

If that was right (you sure your not exagerating?) the reviews and impressions you posted also falls inside this and became moot.

 

I'm not exaggerating. Die quality and country of manafacture can definately make an impact on temps. Those charts made nothing moot. You were wrong about power consumption and you're wrong about this. All CPU's vary, no die is ever exactly the same, die process varies from different contries of manafacture too. Sure it's nitpicking. But like I said I have seen claims of 10c fluctutations in K series.

[Pilotasso]

LOL I showed you graphs of tests and spec sheets, and all you shown me is a test being conducted the wrong way not to mention totaly wrong science claims. bah

 

I bet youll just ignore my results as well and assume the video as the whole truth.

[Vault]

You showed me the stock CPU power consumption. Not one that's been OC'd. Do you really think all dies are the same?. Like I said you can't compare 2500K and 2600K series there different. I'd like to see your results of prime95 for 1 hour with CPU-Z screenshot.

Edited October 23, 2011 by Vault

[Pilotasso]

did you see the TDP specs for both CPU's and the tests load temps? Please dont take a blind eye.

 

And heres my results:

[Vault]

4.5ghz OC on an i5 2500K @ 70c is average, 2600K temp will be higher, hence why I was a bit surprised @ 55c on an H70. D14 would be better ;) Are you pushing hot air from the rad into the case from that exhaust? or pulling hot air from the case?. ;)