Dropship Pilot Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I agree with Gadroc. A small nicely centered pre-drilled hole would be nice. So everyone can adjust the knobs to the parts at hand (even those metric people here in Europe :smilewink:). Having the knobs with the lettering lasered would be really nice too, as that's something not everyone can do at home. Cheers, Stefan PS: Still in for the full set.
Deadman Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 i understand your concerns about cost. The problem that some have run it to are the shapes of the knob and trying to accurately drill in to the side for the set screws. step 5 in this tutorial http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=6776.0 but I am sure you guys can do it:thumbup: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
avlolga Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Will be done, one by one , slowly and easy. :thumbup:
Deadman Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 well the search continues for the proper molding and casting material and we may need to wait for a month or so for it to warm up here the temp has a great affect on these things. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
moken Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Dear Deadman, I knew you don't like me but could you count me in? I want full set knobs too. I think your hand make is best Edited February 20, 2012 by moken
Deadman Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 there is no like or dislike yet you did something that was not right and i asked you to stop you did no problem. information on the knob run will be posted here Thanks https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
moken Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 If i have anything wrong, please forgive me, I want knobs too, count me in, ok?
Deadman Posted February 21, 2012 Author Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Well the equipment is starting to get here and it is all so 28 F and snowing the garage will need to be between 72 and 80 F this may put a damper on casting until it warms up. I am sure if the clear resin stinks as bad as i think it will the wife will have none of that in the house:smilewink: Edited February 21, 2012 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
reaper7 Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Any idea of cost for complete set, Interested :smilewink:
avlolga Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Hi reaper7, you probably missed it: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1326362&postcount=6
Deadman Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 That is a very old post there are actually 85 or so knobs in the cockpit. I used a ruff a very ruff estimate of $4 a knob for a reference form that time the guy making knobs at $4 each is no longer doing it and the other knobs in that range were reported to be unacceptable in quality by other members. I have all ready purchased several pieces of equipment to do a proper job on the knobs i will estimate the numbe of units to sell and see what the break even price on the knobs is. I can't afford to loose a bunch any way we will see how it comes out https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Tomb Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 I think you must count actually how many people order and at least half payment in advance which can at least break even price for the first produce.
Deadman Posted February 24, 2012 Author Posted February 24, 2012 I prefer not to do 1/2 payments or to take payment before something i am selling is made or ready to ship. But thanks for the Idea https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 this has been pmed to some of the interested members any one else can join in as well Hi guys you have all expressed interest in A-10C knob sets could you give me some input? I am looking at providing clear, gray,and Black knobs all of the lit knobs would be clear and all of the non lit IE ( radio , intercom, ADI ,HSI, ALT, RWR would be solid gray or black. What panels or knobs are you interested in seeing produced first? Do you want to wait and purchase a complete set all at once. Do you want the knobs drilled for their shaft holes? I will have to actually mold the knobs and cast a few to get a good estimate of the cost. Do you want the knobs drilled for set screws? please post any thing in the thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=81429&page=6 Thanks DM https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
avlolga Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 Hi Deadman, Regarding to Color - what is good for you is good for me. Your Q - Do you want to wait and purchase a complete set all at once: A - Since you r doing for me all the hard work i will be happy with any decision you make. Your Q - Do you want the knobs drilled for their shaft holes? i can save this work for you and can do it myself, don't bother for me. Your Q - Do you want the knobs drilled for set screws? i can do that too - what is the screws size for the knobs you going to screws? is it the same for all, or it will be related to the knobs size? So what you will decide is more than good for me. PM your paypal account, i like to pay in advance at least 1/2, you don't need to pay / buy my parts from your won money, you r not me bank or my Credit Card Company. Thanks for your good will and hard work !!! Avi
Deadman Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 Here are some answers to your questions Hi Deadman, Regarding to Color - what is good for you is good for me. I will be as accurate as possible matching non back lit knobs to there real color. Your Q - Do you want to wait and purchase a complete set all at once: A - Since you r doing for me all the hard work i will be happy with any decision you make. Your Q - Do you want the knobs drilled for their shaft holes? i can save this work for you and can do it myself, don't bother for me. Your Q - Do you want the knobs drilled for set screws? i can do that too - what is the screws size for the knobs you going to screws? If your doing the drilling size will be your choice i have no idea what you have avalible localy there are several different sizes used in the knobs. is it the same for all, or it will be related to the knobs size? So what you will decide is more than good for me. PM your paypal account, i like to pay in advance at least 1/2, you don't need to pay / buy my parts from your won money, you r not me bank or my Credit Card Company. A soon as i get the mold material,make a cast I would like it to be of knobs every one wants first but if there is no real response. I will make the AN/ARC 164 Have quick II knobs solid non back lit gray. Thanks for your good will and hard work !!! Avi https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 Hi Deadman, I think your proposal to cast the knobs as close to the correct color as possible (clear for the back lit knobs) is perfect. In regard to the production sequence I think it would be nice to start with the knobs that are used most of the time. Shaft holes and set screw holes would be nice but that's something I could do myself. So it simply depends on how much these will add to the cost. For the shaft holes I'd vote for 5.8mm or 6mm diameter, as it's quite easy to enlarge the diameter. Trying to decrease the diameter can quite awkward. :smilewink: Cheers, Stefan
Deadman Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 Some answers Hi Deadman, I think your proposal to cast the knobs as close to the correct color as possible (clear for the back lit knobs) is perfect. Thanks In regard to the production sequence I think it would be nice to start with the knobs that are used most of the time. so whitch do you use the most ? Shaft holes and set screw holes would be nice but that's something I could do myself. So it simply depends on how much these will add to the cost. For the shaft holes I'd vote for 5.8mm or 6mm diameter, 6 mm would be 1/4 inch and so your on the large side al ready on the shaft hole as it's quite easy to enlarge the diameter. Trying to decrease the diameter can quite awkward. :smilewink: Cheers, Stefan https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Dropship Pilot Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 The knobs I use most are the VHF radio knobs followed by the UHF, HSI and ILS. It may sound picky but 1/4 inch is actually 6.35mm. It doesn't sound much but a 6mm shaft will not properly fit (especially as they are usually 5.9mm) in a 6.35mm hole. Anything smaller than 6mm would be fine for me. Cheers, Stefan
Deadman Posted February 28, 2012 Author Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) You can get rotary switches and potentiometers with 1/8 inch 3.175mm shafts:music_whistling:and there are used in both radios there for it stands to reason that any pilot hole will be smaller than that was my point there The knobs I use most are the VHF radio knobs followed by the UHF, HSI and ILS. It may sound picky but 1/4 inch is actually 6.35mm. It doesn't sound much but a 6mm shaft will not properly fit (especially as they are usually 5.9mm) in a 6.35mm hole. Anything smaller than 6mm would be fine for me. Cheers, Stefan Edited February 28, 2012 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted February 28, 2012 Author Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) OK one more question for the 2 AN/ARC-186(V) VHF AM/FM panels.The color of knobs one set gray and one black or both gray? Mine are set up forward Gray and aft Black. What do you guys want any one some one wake the guy in back up he is drooling on the desk. Edited February 28, 2012 by Deadman https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 OK no answers on that one. Take a look here are some of the solid knobs that will be cast http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/Knobs/ https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
avlolga Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 OK one more question for the 2 AN/ARC-186(V) VHF AM/FM panels.The color of knobs one set gray and one black or both gray? Mine are set up forward Gray and aft Black. What do you guys want any one some one wake the guy in back up he is drooling on the desk. Hi, A combination of two colors is nice - like yours, it's sounds more difficult to make. Thanks
avlolga Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 OK no answers on that one. Take a look here are some of the solid knobs that will be cast http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/Deadman-722/Knobs/ very nice.
Deadman Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 Iam not sure what you mean here.it is just two different sets of knobs one coloured gray one Black. Hi, A combination of two colors is nice - like yours, it's sounds more difficult to make. Thanks https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
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