air to air tactics?

[evilbadger]

Hi!

 

The most time I played air to ground missions, but now I want to try air to air too. I decided to start with the F15 and I think I'm able to fly it and find some targets. But I'm getting in troubles when it comes to a dogfight. I don't know what to do... I mean, turning the plane in the enemy direction and firing a Sidewinder isn't the way it's meant to be done, is it? What to do in a dogfight?

 

Thanks :)

 

badger

[ФрогФут]

May be it will stupid, but:

"Roll over, spin round, to come in behind them

Move to their blindsides and firing again"

© Iron Maiden

Try not to miss the moment of enemy's missile launch.

[enigma6584]

Hi!

 

The most time I played air to ground missions, but now I want to try air to air too. I decided to start with the F15 and I think I'm able to fly it and find some targets. But I'm getting in troubles when it comes to a dogfight. I don't know what to do... I mean, turning the plane in the enemy direction and firing a Sidewinder isn't the way it's meant to be done, is it? What to do in a dogfight?

 

Thanks :)

 

badger

 

LOL. There is a bit more to it than that. What you ask is something that takes years of practice to learn in the real world. They write books about this stuff. You have a lot of reading to do. Good luck.

 

I would suggest you start at the link below. The site is Fighter Tactics Academy.

 

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/index.htm

 

Good luck.

[GGTharos]

Not really, doesn't take years.

 

First, become a good stick: Search for 'being a good stick in LOMAC' at simhq.com.

 

Get and read Robert Shaw's Fighter Combat - that's /all/ about dogfighting.

Combine this with understanding the geometry of dogfighting - circles (planes fly in circles in dogfights - they'll do other things too, but whatever they DO, it's always flying ON PART OF A CIRCLE ... so understand circles WELL.

 

Understand what they look like on paper, understand whhat happens when you're flying on the same circle as your opponent or if your circle is offset, or if the circles are of different size, and understand WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH THE CANOPY.

 

Watch the plane's aspect.

[evilbadger]

Circles, BFMs, corner velocity ... It's driving me crazy.

 

Thanks for the links, I'm sure I'll need some time to get it.

[SUBS17]

Check the training missions on FC, it explains some of that. You also need Trakir for dogfighting properly.

[britgliderpilot]

Mmmmn . . . . . "need" is relative.

 

 

For other references, I keep pointing to PapaDoc's stuff, originally written for Flanker 1.5. Old, in some cases out of date, but fun and still mostly accurate. Find it here:

 

http://www.papadoc.net/FlamingoSu27Homebase.htm

 

 

Beware old broken links - the ones that work are good.

[ARM505]

Papadoc.......jeepers, remember the good-ol' flame fests on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim??? Brings back memories...