Spin recovery

[Andrei]

Greetings.

 

First of all a compliment to ED for making yet another great product. While I am not a big fan of the piston birds, having flown A2A Spitfire and your Mustang, it's a true pleasure to try.

 

Now to the question. The bird handles somewhat interestingly in the air, sometimes feeling agile and sometimes really sloppy. Did not determine why yet. However one thing it Really likes to do is spin. I've tried almost all the tricks I know to get it out of spinning mode, however with no significant luck.

 

One thing worth mentioning that I have not tried it above ~2.5K feet. While for many other aircraft this may be enough, may it be that Mustang requires much greater altitude for recovery? Or is it next to impossible to recover it at all?

 

Thanks for the feedback.

[Smokin Hole]

I handles great. But like all planes it gets mushy as you get slow. If you find it unresponsive then you are very close to stall. As for spin recovery I found that it responds well to traditional inputs. But remember that the throttle needs to be at idle. Any throttle will only flatten and tighten the spin and make recovery slow.

[SimFreak]

THROTTLE - IDLE

RUDDER - OPPOSITE OF SPIN

STICK - Slight FOR

[ErichVon]

Greetings.

 

First of all a compliment to ED for making yet another great product. While I am not a big fan of the piston birds, having flown A2A Spitfire and your Mustang, it's a true pleasure to try.

 

Now to the question. The bird handles somewhat interestingly in the air, sometimes feeling agile and sometimes really sloppy. Did not determine why yet. However one thing it Really likes to do is spin. I've tried almost all the tricks I know to get it out of spinning mode, however with no significant luck.

 

One thing worth mentioning that I have not tried it above ~2.5K feet. While for many other aircraft this may be enough, may it be that Mustang requires much greater altitude for recovery? Or is it next to impossible to recover it at all?

 

Thanks for the feedback.

 

(1) Chop throttle

 

(2) Stick forward

 

(3) Opposite rudder as to the spin direction.

 

is the usual recovery fix-it.

 

I don't know how they model this thing, yet. I am currently downloading it. My other WWII sim, I have a throttle button to also cut power in flight. This sim, restarting after killing the engine, I do not know how easy it is to restart the engine.

 

I am sure any aircraft given the improper parameters can go into a flat spin, at which time, you will be lucky to get out of the plane at all.

 

One of the Spits is notorious for snap stalls.

 

I always come in pretty fast with a P-51D and right at the end of the runway for plenty of room to roll out. Nice and easy does it braking.

 

The Corsair has a really nasty tail wheel that needs to be locked pretty soon after landing on a runway without tailhook, just put stick back into your lap. I have not found this to be true with the P-51D in the other sims I have flown.

 

Most of the USA WWII fighters were boom and zoomers, not turn fighters.

 

Keep your E or suffer the consequences!

[Andrei]

Thanks ErichVon.

 

It's good to get more insight into the bird. I did practice "traditional" recovery fix you have also indicated here and indeed it works. The only catch here is that you seem to need much more forward stick that I've expected.

[Yo-Yo]

If you chop the throttle the recovery is smooth and predictable. After you apply opposite rudder and then stick slightly forward from centre the recovery is 3/4-1 turn for left and 1/2-3/4 furns for right. If you spinning left with power on the spin becomes flatter and recovery is harder.

But no problem.

 

Once I caught inverted spin and no altitude to get out. It was interesting... no luck, though. :)

[ErichVon]

Thanks ErichVon.

 

It's good to get more insight into the bird. I did practice "traditional" recovery fix you have also indicated here and indeed it works. The only catch here is that you seem to need much more forward stick that I've expected.

 

Sometimes I deliberately get into a really bad spin just to confuse the guy on my six and give him a harder target to hit. The really good jocks, this won't phase one bit.

 

Yeah, once not spinning, easy out to level and power on easy does it, as to the torque of the engine not reintroducing you into another spin.

 

Performance differs at various altitudes. There should be performance charts the engineers proofed before ever releasing it past the test pilots to the military.

 

I am really interested how this baby is going to perform. Like the 1st time I got the rotors on the Black Shark spinning from a cold start.

 

Well, I got it installed, now to go purchase it.

[Blaze]

...and sometimes really sloppy..

 

I should slap you. :D

[Hamblue]

Another thing you should do is always run down your aux tank at least half way first. The tanks location changes the center of gravity and makes the plane feel unstable. The sooner you burn some of the aux fuel the better.

This is even if you have drop tanks. Get the aux down asap.

If you're only sticking around the airfield, avoid full fuel. I don't know about this sim but others do not fill the Aux tank when running below 100% fuel.

[Blaze]

It would be nice if in the ME you could select how much fuel you want in the wings and fuse tank SEPARATELY.

[TX-EcoDragon]

Do these things, in this order (ELEVATOR must be last)

 

Power off

Ailerons Neutral (or, in the direction of the spin)

Rudder Opposite

Elevator just forward enough to go through neutral. (NOT very far forward)

 

DCS: P-51 does a pretty good job of modelling spins, and this means that poor recovery techniques can lead to other spin modes (such as crossover spins to inverted), and this may prevent, and WILL certainly delay recovery.