Poor performance with any setting. And request to developers.

[WildBillKelsoe]

Actually that was the last card i was using in my system and it performed just fine in DCS, its the CPU running at a low speed and the 4gb of system RAM thats holding him back.

 

Based on your reply, what is the recommended spec for a one-time-purchase of assembled rig? CPU? GPU? RAM? HDD capacity and type (SSD/STD)?? etc...

[joey45]

I would stay away from those STD drives...

[WildBillKelsoe]

I would stay away from those STD drives...

 

HAHAHAHAH!!! I meant standard, not STD's... LOL!!! :lol:

But we got rubber too :D

[jtmedina]

What I was saying is that I don't see this slowdown you are talking about. And my hardware is not something hot - that shot was taken on a non-overclocked system, in windowed mode, with Aero on, with HD video playing on a second screen, with 5 billion secondary applications running - at it still worked.

 

Point being: your description is not something I can recognize from the reality I see.

 

 

 

Tonnes of possible reasons. For one, what exact processor was thast? C2Q? Then it's actually not a quad core, it's two dual-cores inside a single package with a bridge in between, and ends up below System Recommendation.

 

You can still run it fine though, I've tested on an e8500 with a 512mb 9800GTX+. Doesn't let me max things out, but lower those settings and it's all fine.

 

 

 

Actually, I do NOT work for them. I have never received a single dollar from ED or TFC. ;)

 

 

 

The thing you're missing is that "4 years old hardware" is not "average". It's "4 years old." My machine here cost 1 000 dollars 18 months ago. There was WAY better things out there even then, and there's things that outright slaughter this rig I have on the market now.

 

This is the console generation affecting you - most PC games are developed not for the PC, but rather for consoles that are pushing 7-8 years. That is why even old PC's can run them. But these simulators are made for PC's, and they seek to push the envelope of what can be done on PC's.

 

 

 

ED isn't selling for "just a few", not beyond what is already caused by being in simulators insteads of arcade shooters, which already places ED as selling for "the few". :P

 

No, it's not the console generation affecting me.

 

I can run Flight, FSX, FALCON, IL2 CLOD, Rise of Flight, Wings of Prey.

 

Most of them almost maxed out @ 1980x1080, except FSX which I have to tweak a bit and all of them running in average at 30-40 fps.

 

DCS is the only one I can not properly run.

[GGTharos]

None of those are comparable. Can you guess why?

[EtherealN]

Flight is an Arcade game made for Xbox.

FSX is an 8 years old game.

Falcon is a 14 years old game.

IL-2 Cliffs of Dover is a year old. (Though it has taken them until now to make it run okey on _anything_. At release it was unplayable also on this machine of mine. System modeling etcetera is extremely rudimentary.)

Rise of Flight is 3 years old - almost as old as the computer I had BEFORE this one. It has not seen updates in relevant fields to make it's sysrqs go up. System modeling is extremely rudimentary, Flight model is largely guesswork, terrain is small.

Wings of Prey is very lightweight and has made considerable tradeoffs for graphics - including terrain, flight models, system modeling etcetera. And is 2 and a half years old.

 

DCS: World is not even released yet.

 

As I said: your computer is below system requirements. You will have to exercise some tradeoffs for framerates.

[jtmedina]

Flight is an Arcade game made for Xbox.

FSX is an 8 years old game.

Falcon is a 14 years old game.

IL-2 Cliffs of Dover is a year old. (Though it has taken them until now to make it run okey on _anything_. At release it was unplayable also on this machine of mine. System modeling etcetera is extremely rudimentary.)

Rise of Flight is 3 years old - almost as old as the computer I had BEFORE this one. It has not seen updates in relevant fields to make it's sysrqs go up. System modeling is extremely rudimentary, Flight model is largely guesswork, terrain is small.

Wings of Prey is very lightweight and has made considerable tradeoffs for graphics - including terrain, flight models, system modeling etcetera. And is 2 and a half years old.

 

DCS: World is not even released yet.

 

As I said: your computer is below system requirements. You will have to exercise some tradeoffs for framerates.

 

 

HEHEHE, that was a good one. :D

 

DCS World has a engine as old as FSX. Changing the name won't make it look any better.

 

The competition is out there and they can make simulators that run better than yours, wake up, fix the problem, stop blaming us.

It's amazing you still have the balls to say It's my system that can't hadle it. When the DCS engine is more than 5 years old....unbelievable.

 

 

As I said: your computer is below system requirements. You will have to exercise some tradeoffs for framerates.

 

No It is not below system requirements

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/compare,2426.html?prod%5B4417%5D=on&prod%5B4428%5D=on

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?end_pos=135&scr=products&lang=en

 

Recommended system requirements: Operating system 64-bit: Windows Vista and 7; Processor: CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400, AMD Phenom X3 8750 or better; Memory: 4GB; Hard disk space: 7 GB; Video: Shader 3.0 or better; 896MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 DirectX 9.0c or better; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; DirectX: 9.0C; requires internet activation.

 

Minimum system requirements: Operating system: Windows XP, Vista or 7; Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz; Memory: 3 GB; Free hard disk space: 7 GB; Video: 512 MB RAM card, DirectX 9 - compatible; Sound: DirectX 9.0c - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Unfortunately gaming on PC is not regulated. If ED sells a game that doesn't work on my system despite my PC meets the system requirements there is nothing I can do.

 

From now on I won't buy a DCS game ever unless I am completely sure it runs on my system. No more free money for them, when the only thing I get is frustrations and tons of tweaking.

 

I am done with this story, you can make up the rest.

[Panzertard]

I think all the contenders have been able to speak their mind over 14 pages.

And if the powers higher up took notice, they should have taken their notes by now.

As of now we can put this intellectual wrestling-match to a rest for a bit.

 

Sorry Ethereal - you need to get to bed.

jtmedina, I think we can safely say that you've been able to elaborate on the issue.

Thanks to all.