TM HOTAS Issue with Throttle Config

[WheelChair]

Solved to my satisfaction still an issue with the P51D EASY Controls not setting the throttle to the throttle but it works now in the REAL so I'm a happy camper!

 

Hello Nice Persons!

 

I'm having a time of it to setting my throttle is supposed to be "Z" axis right well mine reads this but it really acts just like "RZ" rudder axis and when I looked close the far end of the throw is reading RZ just before the Z that it should be and reads on the controls list.

 

My TM HOTAS Warthog is flawless in every other game and SIM I have tried it in including BS2 and A10C without a hitch. I have gone thru each of them with the Warthog since this problem occurred. It is right out of the box doing this (not the HOTAS Box the SIM Box).

 

I have re-installed the SIM two times to no avail thinking my config was corrupt the second time was a fresh download as well and from the other format than the first two installs.

 

I cannot get the throttle to be the throttle and the slider is my zoom that is acting as the throttle. I have tried deleteing and getting rid of the whole category to no avail as well.

 

Any assistance, thoughts or hmm's are welcomed!

 

Thanx much,

 

WheelChair

Edited June 17, 2012 by WheelChair
clarification added solved to 1st post

[cichlidfan]

Which throttle are you trying to assign, the left or right? When you try to assign, are you sure you are not accidentally moving the other throttle (even a little)?

[WheelChair]

Which throttle are you trying to assign, the left or right? When you try to assign, are you sure you are not accidentally moving the other throttle (even a little)?

 

You might have something there I am not separating them they are hooked together as one but if it is what is causing it i will know in a few minutes I will go and test this.

 

Thanx,

 

W__

[cichlidfan]

That is absolutely what is causing it (I suspected as much). Use the right throttle for throttle and the left for prop rpm. You'll be good to go. ;)

[LawnDart]

I think most of my squad mates and myself loaded P-51 with a throttle acting as rudder the first time. You need to clear every axis assignment for the Mustang in the options, manually if needed. Be sure to clear all axis assignments for not just your throttle, but rudders, and other input devices etc. and then re-assign each axis you intend to use to the correct controls (once EVERYTHING showing an axis is cleared out).

 

P-51 is still beta, but making it a habit of clearing ALL axis assignments for your input devices is never a bad idea.

 

Some of the axes may also be assigned incorrectly to multiple controls at the same time (e.g. rudders and throttle using the same axis assignment in the settings).

 

The fact that your controls work fine in other sims tells me the axis assignments is where the problem lies...

Edited June 17, 2012 by LawnDart

[WheelChair]

Which throttle are you trying to assign, the left or right? When you try to assign, are you sure you are not accidentally moving the other throttle (even a little)?

 

Well you have gotten the first part yes the throttles were linked as one unit but the left puts out the RZ and the right the Z.

 

NOW for the other issue I still cannot get the throttle to act like one even though it is set to be the only throttle (right side) the Slider is still the throttle inside the SIM flying. It is normally the Zoom Feature Axis but I have done it with and without it set at all and not change any ideas on this part too cichlifan or anyone else?

 

Thanx again,

 

W__

[WheelChair]

I think most of my squad mates and myself loaded P-51 with a throttle acting as rudder the first time. You need to clear every axis assignment for the Mustang in the options, manually if needed. Be sure to clear all axis assignments for not just your throttle, but rudders, and other input devices etc. and then re-assign each axis you intend to use to the correct controls (once EVERYTHING showing an axis is cleared out).

 

P-51 is still beta, but making it a habit of clearing ALL axis assignments for your input devices is never a bad idea.

 

Some of the axes may also be assigned incorrectly to multiple controls at the same time (e.g. rudders and throttle using the same axis assignment in the settings).

 

The fact that your controls work fine in other sims tells me the axis assignments is where the problem lies...

 

will go with LawnDarts idea now to see if this works. Perhaps if you should see this again you could explain the use of the "Axis Assign" feature as well.

 

Thanx,

 

W__

[cichlidfan]

will go with LawnDarts idea now to see if this works. Perhaps if you should see this again you could explain the use of the "Axis Assign" feature as well.

 

Thanx,

 

W__

 

Clearing the 'default' assignments is almost always required. I do it automatically and then start assigning (not just DCS products either).;)

 

Also, when working with the control page, take note of the pulldown near the upper left. That selection has to match the aircraft you are setting the controls for. There are two choices for the Mustang as well (Real & Game I believe they are called).

 

As for the process of assigning an axis. Once you are in the Controls page click the button at the bottom of the page that says 'Axis Assign', now locate the column for the controller you are working on. In that column find the box that lines up with the control you want (i.e. Throttle). Double click that box. That will bring up a new window. You do not need to type anything. Just move the correct control all the way in both directions. You will see the axis name appear in the box. Click OK. Rinse. Repeat.

 

I hope that helps. This is explained in the GUI manual if you have A-10C or BS2. You can also download the GUI manual from here. It won't match 100% of course but it will give you all of the information you might need.

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/documentation/dcs-a-10c_warthog_gui_manual_en/

 

EDIT: One more thing. It doesn't matter whether your throttle axis is called Z or RZ. I prefer the left for Prop and the right for Throttle but the sim does not care.

Edited June 17, 2012 by cichlidfan

[WheelChair]

Clearing the 'default' assignments is almost always required. I do it automatically and then start assigning (not just DCS products either).;)

 

Also, when working with the control page, take note of the pulldown near the upper left. That selection has to match the aircraft you are setting the controls for. There are two choices for the Mustang as well (Real & Game I believe they are called).

 

As for the process of assigning an axis. Once you are in the Controls page click the button at the bottom of the page that says 'Axis Assign', now locate the column for the controller you are working on. In that column find the box that lines up with the control you want (i.e. Throttle). Double click that box. That will bring up a new window. You do not need to type anything. Just move the correct control all the way in both directions. You will see the axis name appear in the box. Click OK. Rinse. Repeat.

 

I hope that helps. This is explained in the GUI manual if you have A-10C or BS2. You can also download the GUI manual from here. It won't match 100% of course but it will give you all of the information you might need.

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/documentation/dcs-a-10c_warthog_gui_manual_en/

 

EDIT: One more thing. It doesn't matter whether your throttle axis is called Z or RZ. I prefer the left for Prop and the right for Throttle but the sim does not care.

 

Thanx much but the fix for the throttle working like one is not doing the trick so to speak I must have to go into the controller config to clear something out as it will not do so in the SIM's Controller UI. If anyone knows there way around that area all assistance is requested in the fix?

 

Thanx again,

 

W__

[cichlidfan]

Thanx much but the fix for the throttle working like one is not doing the trick so to speak I must have to go into the controller config to clear something out as it will not do so in the SIM's Controller UI. If anyone knows there way around that area all assistance is requested in the fix?

 

Thanx again,

 

W__

 

The controller, outside of the sim, should have no configuration at all (aside from the driver of course) unless you are using Target. Even if you were, that would not matter.

 

If you want to clear the controllers you have to do each one individually. Go to the Options>Controls>Axis Assigning screen. Click any box in the column of a controller. The click the 'Clear Category' button near the top. Do this for each column (except the mouse and TIR if you have it).

 

Now there should be nothing assigned to your controllers. Go through the steps in my previous post (the GUI manual might be a little more clear and it has pictures :D).

 

Don't stress.

Edited June 17, 2012 by cichlidfan

[WheelChair]

The controller, outside of the sim, should have no configuration at all (aside from the driver of course) unless you are using Target. Even if you were, that would not matter.

 

If you want to clear the controllers you have to do each one individually. Go to the Options>Controls>Axis Assigning screen. Click any box in the column of a controller. The click the 'Clear Category' button near the top. Do this for each column (except the mouse and TIR if you have it).

 

Now there should be nothing assigned to your controllers. Go through the steps in my previous post (the GUI manual might be a little more clear and it has pictures :D).

 

Don't stress.

 

SORRY No go on this one I have done it several times any others want to give it a go?

 

Thanx again cichildfan!

 

W__

[cichlidfan]

One more shot. Go to C:\Users\<your name>\Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input. Delete everything in it. Restart the sim and try one more time.

 

If you can not delete a controller from the configuration or if it will not let you make changes in some other way, then the most likely cause is that one or more config files has gotten corrupted (for some reason this can happen rather easily, or so it seems). Doing the above will cause a new set to be created as soon as you attempt to make any changes (which is what we want).

 

If this does not work, then I will shutup for a while becuase I am out of ideas without having a better picture of what you are seeing (not your fault of course).

 

EDIT: Once the folks on the other side of the Atlantic start waking up, you will get more help I'm sure.

Edited June 17, 2012 by cichlidfan

[WheelChair]

One more shot. Go to C:\Users\<your name>\Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input. Delete everything in it. Restart the sim and try one more time.

 

If you can not delete a controller from the configuration or if it will not let you make changes in some other way, then the most likely cause is that one or more config files has gotten corrupted (for some reason this can happen rather easily, or so it seems). Doing the above will cause a new set to be created as soon as you attempt to make any changes (which is what we want).

 

If this does not work, then I will shutup for a while becuase I am out of ideas without having a better picture of what you are seeing (not your fault of course).

 

EDIT: Once the folks on the other side of the Atlantic start waking up, you will get more help I'm sure.

 

Well it didn't work to delete the folder in the easy category and should have BUT it did work on the real setting and that's the one I need anyway. The young one will just need to learn the right way right out of the blocks and go how to fly with the real settings.

 

thanx cichildfan headache gone and yours should be too now that this ordeal is over.

 

WheelChair

[cichlidfan]

thanx cichildfan headache gone and yours should be too now that this ordeal is over.

 

No headache man, been there before. I have broken DCS just about every way that you can.

 

As for real or easy. Even in Real mode you can add a little help if you wish. Under Option is a tab called Special. There is a checkbox for 'autorudder' and a slider for 'take-off assist'. I am not recommending them, just pointing them out.

 

Flaming debris along the runway builds character! :D

 

EDIT: I would think that should have fixed the easy setting too but tbh I have never touched them in any DCS title, not that I knew what I was doing I just destroyed a lot of aircraft for a while.

Edited June 17, 2012 by cichlidfan

[WheelChair]

lol I will remember this!!

 

Thanx again,

 

W__

[Metro]

Hello everyone, Just setup DCS and having the same problem with cougar Hotas throttle. I did everything everyone on here has done and when I go to the "Axis Tune" button for the throttle it shows movement related the the throttle. When I go into the program all control axis work fine except the throttle. Any more ideas? Thanks!

[Metro]

Disreguard the above message. I got it fixed! Works like a champ!

[Double_D]

Problem Solved Thanks...

 

Well, I've created several profiles thru the Game options and now the '51 either rolls to the right or the left at different times..I've cleared and deleted the .Lua files created and re-did my '51 profile but still slopes..to either side on its own...but not as much...:(

 

Edited:

 

Did this :

 

" Go to C:\Users\<your name>\Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input. Delete everything in it. Restart the sim and try one more time."

 

Seems to have solved the problem....

Edited March 3, 2013 by Double_D