Fourteen dead at Batman Premier in USA

[Conure]

Very sad news - what goes through these peoples heads.

 

R.I.P to the victims, thoughts are with your families :(

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

[Rusty_M]

I'm glad the suspect has been arrested, rather than killing himself/being killed as happens so often in these situations. It gives more scope in understanding why people do such things. It's not guaranteed, but there's at least a chance.

 

Must be terrible for those involved and their families.

[WildBillKelsoe]

RIP to all those innocent victims and servicemen. They should grill the guy (for info, not an actual chair.. at least for now)

[Double_D]

well was it fate or just chance...???

 

You tell me...

 

read this article its is related..

 

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/20/boyfriend-of-batman-shooting-victim-devastated

[OutOnTheOP]

I wonder if they will get sensible answers from this nutter ?

Or will it be "I had access to load of guns and just decided to kill lots of people"

 

Stats for 2007 (averaged)

266 people PER DAY shot in America

82 of them died (1/3rd)

 

Wow , that is a really high number

 

First, your numbers are obviously wrong. The FBI homicide rates for 2010 were 14,748 homicides across the US, which equals to 40.4 deaths per day, not 82. (oops, didn't notice you were using 2007 data! Still wrong, though: 2007 was 14,831, which is a rate of 40.6 per day).

 

I doubt ALL of those homicides were committed with firearms; in fact, last I checked, it's around 50% firearms related in the US. 2011 rates are not yet published, but initial counts have a reduction from 2010. (edit: also, 278 of the homicides in 2010 were self-defense homicide by private citizen, and 387 justifiable homicide by law enforcement. Interestingly, there was one justifiable homicide by law enforcement by knife or cutting instrument last year... I wonder how THAT happened?!)

 

Either way, it's dangerously close to getting into political rhetoric; I'll just point out that the while the US has a higher gun violence rate than much of western Europe, the guns aren't the problem. Generally poverty and ghettoization lead to violence more than the presence of firearms; and the US, as the "land of opportunity", attracts an awful lot of poor immigrants, particularly from Mexico, Central and South America, and the Carribean- all of which have murder rates between 2 and 18 times as high as the US. Which isn't to say the South Americans are naturally violent, but the nations there have a higher poverty rate, and are the centers of drug producing gangs. When you have large socially isolated populations living in poverty, you're going to get crime.

 

(just to clarify, I'm not saying the immigrants are the cause because they're immigrants, or because they're from South America, or because they're whatever ethnic group... I'm saying POVERTY is the cause, and immigrants just happen to arrive generally in a state of poverty. Linked, but not causal.)

 

I have access to plenty of guns. Never thought to shoot anyone who wasn't shooting at me.

 

...well, at least, not that wasn't a declared combatant in time of war. In that case, if I see them before they see me, I'm not waiting until they start shooting!

Edited July 22, 2012 by OutOnTheOP