Delerium Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hi to everyone, First of, DCS, nice Job! I bought A-10C (and the HOTAS) a while back, the Sim is solid, graphics are nice... but I must admit that the learning curve is taking more time than I have as a hobby. I was wondering if FC3 would be a easier, on the learning process? Thanks, Best regard from Canada ;) Delerium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopileus Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Try the SU-25T that is included with DCS World, in terms of systems that is exactly the level FC3 is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statrekmike Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 You don't need to be good at A-10C overnight, it is a great sim and worth putting a little bit of time here and there into it. You see, A-10C is more about the learning process than it is about playing a game, I have been playing for about a year now and there is still so much stuff to learn and I would not have it any other way. Give it some time, you don't need to devote hours upon hours a day, just learn one thing at a time and it will all come together. I would be more than happy to help you learn things more quickly, I enjoy teaching folks how to fly in the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agg Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Try the SU-25T that is included with DCS World, in terms of systems that is exactly the level FC3 is at.The Su-25T is the most complex aircraft in FC3. There is no deep systems simulation, no advanced flight model and no clickable cockpits. If you feel that the DCS aircraft are too complex then FC3 is for you, it might even help you understand a lot of the basics so that learning future DCS aircraft migjt be a bit easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I was wondering if FC3 would be a easier, on the learning process? No, definitely not easier. To master the fundamentals of aerial combat is not easy. People make the mistake of thinking of FC3 ito greatly simplified avionics, non-clickable cockpit, Simple Flight models etc etc. That's the mistake, clearly illustrated when you find yourself being used as a target drone online or against the AI. FC3 gives us the tools to delve in DAC (Dissimilar Air Combat). Mastering this is not an easy task and certainly harder than knowing when to push a particular button in a clickable cockpit - it's the next step in becoming a competent virtual aviator :) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 A simulator is only as realistic as you make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 A simulator is only as realistic as you make it. Exactly - the amount of times you'll have your A$$ handed to you is inversely proportional to the amount of time you take to master Aerial Combat. It's up to the individual concerned. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exorcet Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 That said, the A-10A (FC3) controls are a lot easier to map and remember compared to the A-10C (DCS) since there are less of them. You also don't have to worry about things like setting SOI, and the only trim that seems to matter is pitch. Like Viper said, it will still take time to become proficient, but you should be able to get a hang of the controls faster in FC (and then you'll wish had all those DCS buttons because they're so helpful). Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delerium Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hi Folks, First, thanks for the input. I have done some reading of the Su-25t manual (plus training videos) and indeed, it seems less complex. I will take a deeper look at it when time permit. I also need to setup my HOTAS to work correctly, I did not spend 500$ for nothing! Also, thanks for willing to help me out. Basically, in A10C, it's really the Combat / Missiles systems that drives me crazy. I did try the training, but for some reason, the result is not always as the trainer expected ! :) Best regards from Canada, Delerium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Where in Canada are you more or less? :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delerium Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haha! Here you go ;) 45°32'58.48" N 73°35'34.87" W Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbishop Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haha! Here you go ;) 45°32'58.48" N 73°35'34.87" W Regards. I'll wave on my way to concordia tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ahh, party town :) If you were a bit closer I'd offer to help with the training :) Haha! Here you go ;) 45°32'58.48" N 73°35'34.87" W Regards. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 GG...u from Canada too? Hmm...small world. :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Very small! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delerium Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 It's me again ! ;) I was wondering if there is any advantage / difference between the Su-25 that is bundle with World vs FC3 ? Since I'll start learning it, better get the latest one I believe... Pre-Ordering FC3 is no issue for me, I have a few spare dollars. Best Regards from..... ha well.... you know! ;) Delerium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 The Su-25T offered with world is a more advanced version. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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