Clouds Texture Corruption with Latest Nvidia Drivers

[Kindred]

Now I see it, when I export my tracks to avi, especialy when setting exporting with quality exceeding 25%... Heard issue might be related to PCI/AGP latency. Gonna experiment with this to see if this resolve the issue. I'll report back...

 

Cheers

[Sleek]

yea i saw ur post about mitch's find but i'm not quite sure what u mean by PCI latency??

 

good luck and keep us posted ;)

Disappointed with Eagle Dynamics

 

Well, I must say I am very disappointed with ED. Don't count on getting my money on your next product.

 

Such a basic bug as this cloud texture corruption MUST be addressed. I paid money for this and I cannot enjoy this simulation because of this visual bug.

 

I don't care if it's a Nvidia bug or your bug. YOU (ED) must address it with NVidia because this simulation is the only "game" out of my 10 games on my computer with texture corruption.

 

Too bad a great simulation is ruined by such a basic flaw.

 

If ED at least responded to my intial post or responded at all in this thread, I might have forgiven them. Too bad.

[aloke]

I am agree with that.

I PAY FOR A GAME, I PAY FOR PLEASURE TO PLAY, TO SEE, TO HEAR AND TO FEEL IN THE GAME.

I don't care about such a crappy texture management bug is due to Nvidia or ED programing. To Only thing that I care for is my investment.

And for now, I can say that both of them are cheating me, eating my money (your money, all of us too, who are searching day and night to solve that kind of problem).

I don't ask my money back but I'm asking for some kind of attention.

This post is open since 2005 and no solution for now that... revert back to a f...ing old version of that goddamn 6800GT card or do a miserable and pathetic ALT-TAB.

Disgusted. I'm totally disgusted.:mad::disgust:

 

Today, we are in 91.33 version of Forceware driver.

And NO SOLUTION since. I was forced to install WinXP to another partition on my system and do a dualboot especially to play the Lomac I paid for in good conditions ... with an old driver. :mad::disgust:

Maybe in 2012 with Lomac 2... but they'll not get my money that time

 

Peace brothers

[Kindred]

I’m not able to replicate or had found a quick solution to this problem. It does not happen that often enough on my rig to warrant a full fledge troubleshooting. When it does happen, usually exiting and re entering the game usually resolve the problem, well for me at least. But I admit it is freaking annoying when it does happen. Depends I guess from 1 pc to the other. Since the issue is not apparent on all the PC’s I have encountered, maybe, this bug is more subject to different hardware settings, motherboards, chipset compatibility, brand name of video cards and such… There are many aspects to think about. PCI latency vs voltage stability going to your agp slot maybe something to consider also. Not sure, just pushing some ideas around. I admit this issue was never apparent or was never mentioned with version 1.02. I have both version install on my rig, I never seen this strange effect with 1.02.

 

Not sure again, just brainstorming some ideas, maybe some Beta testers with Nvidia cards can elaborate on their findings, if any, not sure if an investigation was done on there part on this bug. Maybe Ed might try to shade some light. Then again ED is hard at work with BS at this time. So I do not expect ED to respond much thus far on this issue.

 

Does it happen in every instance on your side? Have you tried with and without AA & AF. Tried all the combination possible? Have you tried with and without Agp fast write? Considered trying lowering your agp settings to 8X to 4X and lower just to see if might shade some light? Also in your advance Nvidia settings make sure you set you Negative LOD bias to clamp instead to allow, performance to Quality settings. I have chosen; High quality, this helped some of the issues I had with lomac.

 

Anyhow good luck, ...

 

Cheers

[aloke]

To Kindred:

I've tried many combinations of settings.

AGP Fast Writes are disabled since many years by default on my Mobo

I've tried High and Medium settings in Lomac. The problem seems to occur more in High than Medium settings and more in high resolutions (1280x1024 and more).

I've tried to lower shadow settings.

The problem occurs in ANY version of Lomac (1.00 to 1.12a)

But i've sound some hidden menu in my Motherboard doing Shift+F2 and ALT+F3 in Cell menu (MSI K8N Neo) to disable an Overclocking option of Nvidia Video Card which was enabled by default.

I will try and report later

 

i've to go now sorry

I can't believe you guys are so hardheaded. Change your drivers. Do you think this is the only game/sim that has issues with new drivers? Newest isn't always best. I'm not saying go back to the first version of drivers for your vid card, but if you're running say a 6800 then the new drivers aren't being optimized for your vid card. They're being optimized for the 7800 and 7900. I've seen stuff like this happen over the last 6 years that I've gamed online. New drivers don't necessarily mean better performance or better features.

 

The texture corruption stopped with me when I (1) changed drivers and (2) reinstalled Lock On. It could have been one or the other, or both. Either way that fixed the issue with me. And since you don't see everyone else on these boards complaining it's a limited issue that you need to be open minded enuf to solve for yourself. We've told you what to do. Complaining about ED should have done this and nVidia should have done that doesn't fix your problem. All I can say is that if you guys don't open your minds up enuf to fix this one, I'll be hard pressed to offer you a solution should you have another problem arise. There are plenty others here who feel the same way.

 

I've tried it all Ruggbutt. Tried every single driver after 66.93 and the bug is there. 66.93 is the only driver that works...and of course, that driver set is over 1.5 years old! Don't call me hardheaded because you obviously don't konw what you're talking about. I've rebuilt my PC at least 4 times in the last 1.5 years and reinstalled LOmAC at least 10 times with different drivers. The fact is, the bug is there and I can only play this game with 66.93. Now, I don't mind that BUT, 66.93 has bugs with my other games. Get it?

[Guest IguanaKing]

I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is having graphics anomalies with LOMAC...have you monitored the GPU and RAM temp on your video card? My ASUS 9800XT had the best, stock, cooling solution available. But, due to its very nature with lots of small cooling fins near two fans, it was easily defeated by dust bunnies. My card overheated and created all kinds of anomalies. Strangely enough, drivers even affected how soon this problem showed itself. The latest ATI drivers apparently created more heat, earlier, than the older ones. Yes...the mighty rabbits can destroy even the best of systems. I replaced the stock HSF on my A9800XT with a Zalman HSF for VGA cards. No more problems, and the fan is so friggin' huge that it assists my CPU HSF in keeping my CPU temps much lower. This mod is not recommended for the technically-challenged, as it is not easy, and may require some knowledge on your part of how ULSIs can heat up and need heat sinks. For those who don't want to take that risk, just listen to Elmer Fudd..."Kill da wabbit!" :D

[zaelu]

IguanaKing,

 

This bug is strictly driver related. You can switch drivers and the bug apears or disapears acordingly.

 

The bug can pe eliminated by switching the camera to another position on the map (I press quickly F11 few times). Is like you clear (flush) some bad cloud cached texture or so. Or maybe a bad procesed cloud texture.

 

The bug has nothing to do with temperature on your rig. My case is hyper ventilated for that matter because is a self made case with 3X120mm fans that acts like exhausts (one over the PCIs, one at CPU level and one in the power supply). At any given time the air coming out from my case is cold. My CPU which has no fan on the radiator stays under 45°C.

 

Also, the bug tends to apear especialy at the start of the mission and after clearing it, it is not apearing anymore (I think till the next restart of the game/server mission).

 

 

And still this is not going to stop me to grab "Black Shark" and bend some blades :D .

 

Cheers

[zaelu]

I switched off "force mipmaps" in the advanced driver settings (like in that picture) and... it seems that the bug is gone. I started the game today more than a dozen times and the bug didnt apear anymore. Maybe this was the problem, maybe the driver is forcing mipmaps creation on the cloud texture and this is not supported by the game engine ...or somethig :D.

 

I'll post again if the bug reapears or if is not reapearing for one week. Cross your fingers :) .

 

P.S. Btw, today in Romania was extremely hot and my GPU temperature reached 90°C... no cloud texture bug though ;) .

Bottom line. This is a bug with either LOMAC or Nvidia Drivers. Either way, it would be nice for ED and Nvidia to work together to fix this for the consumers' sake.

 

I have a very vanilla system with no overclocking whatsoever:

AMD 64 3200

eVGA 6800 GT

2 Gig Corsair XMS RAM

Audigy 2 ZS

Hitachi SATA

 

 

ED, PLEASE FIX THIS SOON! I LIKE YOUR SIM BUT DON'T LIKE THIS BUG!

[NEODARK]

yeah this bug sucks, but the SHADOW bug is way worse (cant use full shadows cause of it) :(

tell you honestly, I don't think shadow bug is big deal for me because I seldomly use external views. I'm usually in the cockpit (trying to keep it real). The cloud texture bug sucks because I can see it from the cockpit.

rugg, to answer your question .... I've done more than that. I've rebuilt my computer from scratch numerous times because of this bug. That's a CLEAN driver install. And yes, I've tried safe mode and driver removal tool (although nobody should have to do that to update their drivers).

 

And you know what? If you don't get this bug, great. Good for you. Let the others who have this bug ask for a fix, it's not unreasonable to ask. If yours works fine, don't waste your time in this thread, go play!

[zaelu]

Ok, about a week had passed after I switched off "force mip maps" in driver settings and I can say that the bug is almost gone. Is not gone for good but, it is significantly reduced. The cloud corruption apeared 2 or 3 times in this period from, maybe, 50 game starts.

 

Also the bug seems changed a little. The clouds are not corrupted entirely, just few of them are and very mildly. Also the bug almost clean itself by just panning your view off the corrupted clouds.

 

 

Definately switching off "Force Mip Maps" is a good call.

[zaelu]

I must add a little thing.

 

I tried to install the new driver (91.47) and again I noticed the shadow bug where shadow is not rendered anymore a too close distance from the object and the object is dakened completly (no movingship/carrier on the map) is not gone.

 

Also the cloud texture corruption apeared first time I started with the new driver (Force Mip Maps was off). So I reverted to 84.25 :huh: .

Ya know dude, I'm trying to help. You don't want any advice? Fine. But you really sound ignorant when you're trying to ask ED to fix something when you're assuming it's a bug in the game code. I had the cloud problem happen once. I had an AMD64 3200 and an eVGA 6800GT. Sound familiar? My fix was driver reinstall in safe mode and reinstall the game. That was my suggestion to you. If it didn't work or wasn't applicable then fine. You're the one that came asking for help. I thought I could share some pertinent info. I guess I wasted my time with you.

 

What it sounds like is your vid card may have issues or it's a hardware problem on your machine. I don't care if you don't like my opinion on this but since you had a hissy fit you can guarantee that I won't lift a finger to help you with anything in the future. Just keep taking a dump on people trying to help. Grow up.

 

LOL, banned.

Edited January 10, 2009 by <((((><
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