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However, this was for the KA-50 Werewolf variant (those sold to other countries, including turkey who later developed the airframe into the Eragdon) is also capable of carrying the AA-11 (NATO Des 'Archer'), otherwise known as the R-73.

 

Additionally to what Xeno said, the deal with Turkey was provisioned but never went through. No foreign nation ever received a Ka-50 or Ka-52. Turkey chose to procure the A129 by Agusta over Kamovs designs.

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Interesting. but certainly not 'un-realistic' just because you may think it has never happened. IGLA and the Archer are Soviet Missile systems. The Maverick are solely US, although sold to many other nations. Certainly however, not Russia.

 

but not what Janes or Globalsecurity.org say, nor the Defence Procurement library. You wont have access to that.

 

The KA-50 that 'was' sold to Turkey but was eventually in blueprint format only. Russia provided some technical advice during the building of the Eragdon which caused a major upheaval with regards to Turkey's inclusion as a member of NATO. Eventually of course, this is what delayed their partnership deal (NATO Probation) among human rights problems.

 

Thanks anyway. Always interesting to see how other people perceive things.

 

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BTW, if anyone wants to discuss this further, happy to, but on TS or by PM. lets not crag up this thread with an ironic 'reality' spin to a very unrealistic thread. Mavs on KA-50's.

 

Unrealistic of course, but a potential mod, maybe, so lets allow him to trawl for more ideas.

 

Regards

 

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AGM 65D Mavs work without problems!

Simply add this line to the Ka-50.lua.

{ CLSID = "{DAC53A2F-79CA-42FF-A77A-F5649B601308}" }, -- LAU-88 AGM-65D*3

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AGM 65D Mavs work without problems!

Simply add this line to the Ka-50.lua.

{ CLSID = "{DAC53A2F-79CA-42FF-A77A-F5649B601308}" }, -- LAU-88 AGM-65D*3

 

he said he added mavs to payload already, but shark won't fire them or laser tracking needed till impact

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Interesting.

 

but not what Janes or Globalsecurity.org say, nor the Defence Procurement library. You wont have access to that.

Which is opposite of what ED has said, the guys that did DCS Black Shark and worked directly with Kamov.

You'll also notice Janes is still way off base with regards to the designation of the Vikhr missile.

 

The KA-50 that 'was' sold to Turkey but was eventually in blueprint format only. Russia provided some technical advice during the building of the Eragdon which caused a major upheaval with regards to Turkey's desires to want to become a member of NATO. Eventually of course, this is what delayed their partnership deal (NATO Probation) among human rights problems.

I fail to see how the procurement process of an attack helicopter can slow down your inclusion into NATO.

 

In any event, the Ka-50-2 was a proposal to Turkey that lost to the A129; there were never any prototypes nor was anything actually sold.

 

Thanks anyway. Always interesting to see how other people perceive things.

Only difference in perception is the reliability of sources and redefining words like "sold".

 

BTW, if anyone wants to discuss this further, happy to, but on TS or by PM. lets not crag up this thread with an ironic 'reality' spin to a very unrealistic thread. Mavs on KA-50's.

Step 1: Troll.

Step 2: Tell everyone they can't respond to you.

 

AGM 65D Mavs work without problems!

Simply add this line to the Ka-50.lua.

{ CLSID = "{DAC53A2F-79CA-42FF-A77A-F5649B601308}" }, -- LAU-88 AGM-65D*3

That CLSID is for the single-missile rail LAU-117, with the practice TGM-65D. I would suggest one of the following instead:

 

444BA8AE-82A7-4345-842E-76154EFCCA47 -- AGM-65D without attached pylons

 

444BA8AE-82A7-4345-842E-76154EFCCA46 -- AGM-65D with LAU-117 pylon

 

69DC8AE7-8F77-427B-B8AA-B19D3F478B65 -- AGM-65K without attachment pylon

 

69DC8AE7-8F77-427B-B8AA-B19D3F478B66 -- AGM-65K with LAU-117 pylon

 

DAC53A2F-79CA-42FF-A77A-F5649B601308 -- this is the actual 3xAGM-65D

 

907D835F-E650-4154-BAFD-C656882555C0 -- 3xAGM-65K on LAU-88

 

There's also AGM-65H and AGM-65E, though I don't know if the AGM-65E works at all.

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I have to agree with Tyger in one point: Let's not derail this topic any further. This thread is about trying to mod Mavericks onto the shark, that's what it should contain. Discussion about the viability or realism of that undertaking should be discussed within a thread of their own, should there be the need. They don't belong into the mods section.

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I fail to see how the procurement process of an attack helicopter can slow down your inclusion into NATO.

 

It didn't. Turkey was already a member of NATO, but it caused a hell of a shitstorm in Brussells as a result of a NATO country 'buying' blueprints from Russia. My earlier post was a rushed affair and to be franc, didn't think that id have to go into the ins and outs of it and in actual fact, shan't.

 

We all have our points of view and i know where mine come from and how grounded they are. That....is fact.

 

Thanks for your inputs though. genuinely really interesting. Anyhow, back on track.

 

Thanks

 

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Does it actually track anything? Or did you just change the model and name of an existing weapon that works? Or did you name the AI "Ebs"?

Could we get a track?

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c'mon xeno, give me a break.

 

Alright, yes it does track. It works great. But its Laser Homing and not IR (I tried a few weapons with the various heads. The KA50 will not fire anything other than Laser weapons.)

 

It's also possible to add more pylons to the Kamov. No extra 3D model needed. I'm currently positioning the iglas so they appear to be mounted on the wingtips...we'll see if it works out.

 

BUT...I'm sure I'll have problems selecting these new pylons from the pit. Might be able to work round it, might not!

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c'mon xeno, give me a break.

 

Alright, yes it does track. It works great. But its Laser Homing and not IR (I tried a few weapons with the various heads. The KA50 will not fire anything other than Laser weapons.)

Aww, that stinks. I was rather hoping you had managed to get them to lock and fire as an infrared missile, hence my questions.

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