chromium Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Hi to all, Premises: A. in the Kamov cockpit it's necessary to use the longitudinal axis of head movement to look at your wingman and generally in the 3-5 and 7-9 area. That suggest to use the TIR Z-axis to the longitudinal head view axis. B. I use 1 screen only for 1920x1080, so some "zoom" capabilities to focus sight in a particoular direction is really needed. That suggest to use the TIR Z-axis to the zoom axis. What I need: Since in the sim it's impossible to assign both the zoom and long.view axis to the TIR Z-axis, I'm looking for something that duplicate the output of the Z axis of TRACK-IR in two different parallel axis. That could make me use the ingame axis tune option to obtain a longitudinal head movement in the first 60% of the axis movement (example), while keeping the last 40% to the zoom axis... and obtain exactly what I need. Can you suggest any solution? thanks ;) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
Seil Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I've looked into it... not that deep however. TrackIR axis data is encrypted (Supported by version 4; Required by version 5). They did this to protect their product / rights / prevent free-track from working with the official TiR SDK. Without the native SDK from TrackIR, I'm fairly certain you cannot create a virtual device and mirror the Z axis from TrackIR to multiple virtual axis'. However, what I would be curious to know is whether you can hand edit the axis bindings and duplicate that axis call on both inputs.. (Not at my DCS station atm, I'll try to remember to test this sometime this weekend) Can anyone else chime in with any experience trying this? -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
Suchacz Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I have zoom axis on my hotas. I have G940, and zoom is mapped on the roller on the back of the throttle lever. Imho, the lack of axis is the one and only disadvantage of the Hotas Warthog... Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Seil Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 I barely use it at all now. Perfected TrackIR input, restricted FOV limits on the both how far zoomed in and out, it's a very natural and real setup... With the Warthogs, I use the analog on the throttle for zoom, but you can swing your thumb to catch it anytime you need, and I rarely use it, save for when I would use binocs to visually ID something 20-30 miles out briefly for visual reference training. I think zoom is a little overrated... just my $0.02 -Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
chromium Posted March 2, 2013 Author Posted March 2, 2013 I can't use zoom in another differen axis, cause they go in conflict (I'm not going to understand why... that is a secondary solution). Thanks for the suggestion, in particoular the first from Sail, cause I have TIR-4. any other Ideas, simulator side for example (like bypass the single-axis-assignment)? :) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
Seil Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Never did get to mess with this over the weekend, was too busy with other projects... I'll attempt to hack this up later tonight after I get home - No promises, I'm guessing I'll find out it's not doable, but's worth a shot just in case ;) I have both TiR 4 and 5, I could theoretically whip something up, but I'm suspecting this is going to fall into the category of "beyond the point of diminishing return".... In other words, hacking up the axis signals from TiR 4 may take more work than it's worth.... I'll post back with definitive findings after some tests. -Side note: If ED has enabled the encryption flag in the SDK, they can force TiR 4 to run encrypted, as I said above, 4 supports the encrypted communication, it just doesn't require it to work. In this case it wouldn't matter which version you had :( Edited March 4, 2013 by Seil -Seil WotG Founder & A10C Lead
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