CodeToad Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 I have DCS world, and previously bought A10, P51 and Combined Arms. Now I just paid for and downloaded Flaming Cliffs 3 for $50 and upon installation, it says it wants yet another piece of software, seemingly completely unrelated, namely; Lock On Modern Air Combat or FC1 or FC2 Lock On Modern Air Combat is a 2003 program which I can only get used from Amazon any more. Anyway, I dont want to install a ten year old program on my system. WTF is this about ? Do I really have to shell out more money and install prehistoric software before running this DCS module ? If so this is VERY MISLEADING advertising by DCS since FC3 appears as "just another icon" in DCS World, and I clicked it to buy just like I did A10, P51, Combined Arms. No additional dollars or software were required for those. Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators.
pacotito Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Yes unfortunately you do need lock on as ubisoft owns the rights. I've never clicked the purchase icons from the sim so im not sure if it just takes you to the store...but directly from the fc3 description in the estore. "Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 will require an installation of Lock On: Modern Air Combat or previous version Flaming Cliffs" Pacotito I7-5820k@4.5 Z99 extreme4 16gb ddr4 520gb ssd. Gigabyte ssc GTX960 SSC 4gb
cichlidfan Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 WTF is this about ? Do I really have to shell out more money and install prehistoric software before running this DCS module ? Yes. If so this is VERY MISLEADING advertising by DCS since FC3 appears as "just another icon" in DCS World, and I clicked it to buy just like I did A10, P51, Combined Arms. No additional dollars or software were required for those. Did you not read the RED text? ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
pacotito Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 If your in the US you can purchase a digital copy from ubisoft. Gamefly also has it for free for members(not sure of fc3 will install on the gamefly version though) Pacotito I7-5820k@4.5 Z99 extreme4 16gb ddr4 520gb ssd. Gigabyte ssc GTX960 SSC 4gb
CodeToad Posted May 5, 2013 Author Posted May 5, 2013 Wait so is FC3 a completely different game (basically a module for Lock on, Fc1 or FC2) and NOT a module for DCS World like the others ? Gasp. Then I dont want it. :( Maybe DCS will return my money. Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators.
pacotito Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 It is a dcs world module and integrates into the sim. However due to licensing and ubisoft owning the lockon brand they require that lockon be installed as flaming cliffs is technically an addon to lock on. Pacotito I7-5820k@4.5 Z99 extreme4 16gb ddr4 520gb ssd. Gigabyte ssc GTX960 SSC 4gb
CodeToad Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 Ok everyone, thanks for the clarifications. Still think that even if Ubisoft owns the rights, would be MUCH better for users if DCS just built whatever Ubisoft wants into the FC3 price and download. Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators.
sobek Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Still think that even if Ubisoft owns the rights, would be MUCH better for users if DCS just built whatever Ubisoft wants into the FC3 price and download. That is practically impossible with how retail works. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
CodeToad Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 Just to close off this thread / my rant with two grateful comments: 1. ED indeed refunded my LockOn FC3 purchase, no questions asked. Thanks! 2. As soon as the DCS FC3 module came out I bought that and and am now happily learning more planes. Thanks ED ! Great Sim, great service ! Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators.
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