ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 8, 2013 ED Team Posted May 8, 2013 Gov switch in emergency position but no manual control of corrector ? Can anyone confirm for me, when the Gov switch is in emergency I should have manual control of the corrector? or have I got it all confused lol Quoted from the manual C. Governor switch The GOV switch is located on the ENGINE control panel. AUTO position permits the overspeed governor to automatically control the engine rpm with the throttle in the full open position. The EMER position permits the pilot or copilot to manually control the rpm. Because automatic acceleration, deceleration, and overspeed control are not pro- 18 vided with the GOV switch in the EMER position, control movements must be smooth to prevent compressor stall, overspeed, over-temperature, or engine failure. Note. If GOV switch is in EMER position and throttle is full opened, main rotor rpm can exceed the limit, so pilot should control engine and rotor rpm manually by rotating the throttle twist grip. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Sundowner.pl Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Yes, you should, and I have, but with one small hickup: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=105884 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
HuggyBear Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 You should have manual control of the Corrector (which is the throttle) in both Auto and Emer. The Gov RPM 'beep' switch on the collective head will only affect the engine while in Auto. The beep actuators and governor still move in response to the beep switch, however the governor itself is isolated from the N1 section. - Bear Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. - Robert A. Heinlein
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 9, 2013 Author ED Team Posted May 9, 2013 from what I am seeing in game any attempt to control the corrector results in it being set full on regardless of my input. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
wess24m Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 from what I am seeing in game any attempt to control the corrector results in it being set full on regardless of my input. Same here. once it's started up no matter where you put the "corrector" it stays full on. I have it mapped to my left throttle and when I bring it down (regardless if in auto or manual governor) it twists right back up. I've tried manually bringing the governor down then min throttle and have the same thing happen.
Sundowner.pl Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Ok, let's get this straight: - you both have analog axis mapped to "Corrector" (only one axis and only one controler!); - you both start the engine up on gov auto, corrector at idle - engine starts; - twist corrector up - the engine reaches 6600 rpm; - you twist it back to idle again, when it goes to lowest - switch Gov Emer; - twist corrector all the way up - what happens here ? For me the rpms go up, as they should, but don't go beyond 6200 rpm (a no-no). now if I pull the collective, the rpms go up, and I can use the corrector to change them up and down, and fly this way. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
wess24m Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Ok, let's get this straight: - you both have analog axis mapped to "Corrector" (only one axis and only one controler!); - you both start the engine up on gov auto, corrector at idle - engine starts; - twist corrector up - the engine reaches 6600 rpm; - you twist it back to idle again, when it goes to lowest - switch Gov Emer; - twist corrector all the way up - what happens here ? For me the rpms go up, as they should, but don't go beyond 6200 rpm (a no-no). now if I pull the collective, the rpms go up, and I can use the corrector to change them up and down, and fly this way. I have a TMwarthog so the left throttle is mapped to the throttle (corrector), it will spool up when doing a full start but once there, it doesn't want to go back to idle. I pull back the throttle and I see the handle turning towards the idle setting but once it's (my left throttle) full aft (idle) the handle starts twisting back up. Doesn't matter if i'm in auto or manual, double checked all controls for double assignment and theres none. When I land and do a shutdown I have to just kill the fuel to get the turbine stopped. The issue you're having is effecting everybody, as it's already been reported as a bug. Edited May 9, 2013 by wess24m
Sundowner.pl Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Have you tried unbinding the axis, and using the PgUp/PgDown keys instead ? Also different axis than the outboard throttle ? On my TM Cougar it works the same on "antenna" and "range" axis of the throttle grip. I think the problem is connected to your TM Warthog, is BIGNEWY also flying one one of those ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
wess24m Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Have you tried unbinding the axis, and using the PgUp/PgDown keys instead ? Also different axis than the outboard throttle ? On my TM Cougar it works the same on "antenna" and "range" axis of the throttle grip. I think the problem is connected to your TM Warthog, is BIGNEWY also flying one one of those ? Yup, it was happening before I even mapped the axis. I'll do some more testing, will it let you spool down to idle once at operating speed on your end?
Sundowner.pl Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Yes it does, on both automatic and manual. Like I wrote - the system works for me like it should, with exception of the low max rpm in manual mode without load on the rotor. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
wess24m Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Yes it does, on both automatic and manual. Like I wrote - the system works for me like it should, with exception of the low max rpm in manual mode without load on the rotor. I just unbound the axis and rebound it and now it works. weird, not sure what the deal was. I also forgot that the Huey comes bound by default to the 2 throttle axis'es. the left is the collective and the right is the "corrector" so maybe I missed something when I swapped them around.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 10, 2013 Author ED Team Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) I will remap today and give it a go, and post back here EDIT: I Just remapped the corrector axis and it is working now. Someone from Belsimtek might want to take a look at that, Initially when mapped I had no control of the corrector. Thanks guys for finding the solution, great community we have here :) Edited May 10, 2013 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
wess24m Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 I will remap today and give it a go, and post back here EDIT: I Just remapped the corrector axis and it is working now. Someone from Belsimtek might want to take a look at that, Initially when mapped I had no control of the corrector. Thanks guys for finding the solution, great community we have here :) Do you have a Warthog as well?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 10, 2013 Author ED Team Posted May 10, 2013 Do you have a Warthog as well? yes I do wess24m Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 10, 2013 Author ED Team Posted May 10, 2013 but I also know a squadron member who is using a x52pro with the same issue Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
wess24m Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 but I also know a squadron member who is using a x52pro with the same issue gotcha, I wonder if it's the same problem plaguing the toe brakes, i.e. not releasing or depressing to the full range.
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