billsimm Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Hi All, not sure if this is in the right place or not but here goes, I need some advice, i have just treated myself to a SSD and i want to tranfer all my DCS World and modules to it, at present i have BS1, BS2 upgrade, A10C and the new Heuy. My question is when i do a fresh install on my SSD, do i have to install BS1 to get BS2 upgrade to work in DCS World, or can i just install the BS2 upgrade module straight in DCS World without installing BS1 then upgrading that to BS2? Any help much appreciated Thanks
Boris Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 The question is, what have you done with your SSD? Have you completely replaced your old HDD, or installed a fresh operating system on the SSD? Or have you just added the SSD and still boot from the OS on your original HDD. In the latter case, just install DCS world and modules on the new SSD and you won't have to bother with BS1 as it's still on another HD and still in the registry. If you've installed an OS on the SSD from scratch, you'll have to install everything else from scratch too, starting with BS 1. PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update
zaelu Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 I acquired a SSD just the other day... I didn't had to install anything. I use it only for Game partition so I just copied all the files from old drive to the new one and swap drive letter afterwards. For example... Old HDD had D: for letter and now the SSD has D: and the old HDD has X: ... as in secondary/backup. I plan to acquire a second even faster SSD for Operating System... again I don't plan to reinstall a thing... I hate this re-installations :D. What I will do is this: Create an image for OS drive. (Windows Backup is very good at it in Win7) Unplug old boot HDD Plug new blank SSD Start a win7 setup DVD/Flash and ask for repair using image that will be storred on a USB hdd. After restore is finished I check with Windows Experience Index (Win+Pause for system properties) if the Windows is aware now is on a SSD then double check if it has removed "defragmentation schedule" for boot drive Do a speed test with AS-SSD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
billsimm Posted June 2, 2013 Author Posted June 2, 2013 Thanks for the replies, what would happen if i just cloned my HD onto my SSD and then boot from my SSD, would that work and keep DSC World running as it is now? (my dcs world and modules are on the same HD as my OS (Win 7)) ie C drive.
TimeKilla Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 You might have to find out how many points a hard-drive change scores in-case you end up using one of you're DCS key activations on each DCS product. :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Boris Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Thanks for the replies, what would happen if i just cloned my HD onto my SSD and then boot from my SSD, would that work and keep DSC World running as it is now? (my dcs world and modules are on the same HD as my OS (Win 7)) ie C drive. If that's the case and you clone everything as it is, then I don't see why you would need to do anything else. Everything should work just as it did on the old hard drive. Personally, I like to have a clean start when I get a new hard drive. I tend to reformat my OS partition every year or so anyway to get rid of clutter. PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update
TimeKilla Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Am sure the DCS activator will see the hard drive serial number has changed. There's a post somewhere covering this if you want to search. :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Ripcord Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Thanks for the replies, what would happen if i just cloned my HD onto my SSD and then boot from my SSD, would that work and keep DSC World running as it is now? (my dcs world and modules are on the same HD as my OS (Win 7)) ie C drive. Yes this works beautifully, I just did exactly that. I had a 1TB HD as my C: drive and ran ED DCS from there, same as Win 7. Took it out put in a 500GB SSD and copied over the whole drive (imaging). Computer ran perfect right off when I restarted. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
billsimm Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 Thanks for the replies, i will let you know how i get on when the new ssd arrives
zaelu Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Today I bought a second SSD for cloning my OS but it didn't worked... it just say it can't find a suitable Drive although it sees my Kingston V300 120GB drive. I have to reinstall... which I hate... because I have tor reinstall twice... once now and again when I will upgrade my Mainboard/CPU/RAM :( ...but this will be after summer as I do need to fix my bike first. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
TonyZ Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 For what it's worth, I also upgraded to SSD drives in my system both for a C: drive operating system and a D: drive game and data drive.After MUCH grief trying to transfer the existing OS to the SSD drive and much reading and research I found that although it is possible to transfer the OS to the SSD it is not recommended.The SSD drive needs to be properly prepared to recieve the transferred data otherwise there will be much inefficiency and wasted space on the drive. Windows 7 and later is written to recognize and properly prepare an SSD drive for OS installation so you woul;d be better off starting from scratch.BUT... this is not a bad thing!You will find that with the BLAZING speed of the new SSD drive your installs of the OS and all subsequent software including DCS and it's modules will go incredibly quickly.I was able to recreate my entire system with all new installs of all my software as well as every DSC module in record time.My entire system took less time to install than just doing the OS alone on an old platter drive.Just make sure to properly back up your data files and emails and doscs before you start.GOOD LUCK in whatevfer way you decide to go.
cichlidfan Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 IMHO, anytime you find it necessary to replace your system disk, it is also probably a good time to do a clean build of your system. Unless you are a stickler for disk cleanup and maintenance, your current system disk probably contains quite a bit of useless, if not undesirable, data. One of my older SSDs actually came with a cable and software for the purpose of cloning the system disk, it is still unused and I have three machines with SSDs as systems disks. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
zaelu Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) I went on migrating current OS path. My system has some "minor" problems from time to time and reinstalling is not worth it. I think with horror to reinstall drivers and settings and little this and that... When I will upgrade to Haswell CPU I'll do a reinstall. The problems of my system are: not true AHCI mode for SATA drives... sometimes when I need to reset just loses BIOS settings and I need to load them from a save. Sometimes Windows loading freezes half way, Sometimes when I press power switch for 4 seconds does a sort of restart instead of power off... and some other trivial small old PC stuff :). But in general is quite stable... once started. Is a Asus P5K old motherboard with a C2D at 3GHz. No SATA3 so max transfer rate is capped... For migration I needed to get the drive to the PC shop at the street corner where we used Paragon Hard Disk Manager to migrate and the paragon Alignment Tool... the HDD was misaligned. All works OK but with a little... quirk. If I do a cold start it freezes half way every time so I need to reset and when it restarts says the usual "Windows failed to start would you like to kindly try to fix this? ...recommended" I say "yes, sure"... the screen blinks a little and... nothing seems to happen. Then I select "start windows normally" and it boots in under 10 seconds. If I just make a restart (windows 7 not 8 so no UEFI uber quick restart)it starts like nothing is wrong.. DCS works perfectly without any reinstall of modules... which is great. However. If DCS was need to be reinstalled I would rename my DCS folder to something like "DCS Backup" and also copy my DCS folder from User/saved games then do a full clean install of DCS World and modules and after all is finish I would just swap the folders... I'm pretty sure it would work and I keep mods and settings. So this is my "report" in migrating to 2 SSDs and a bit of failure but is due to my hardware I pretty sure. Edit. Because when I restart it never fails to load the OS but in cold start always does fail, I decided that after BIOS POST just before loading the boot sector I press Alt+Ctrl+Del for a quick restart (resetting 50% of the time resets my BIOS settings as I said) and this way the PC boots from a cold start without failing. So it's some sort of delay that appears somewhere in hardware and hangs the boot sequence. If enough time is provided (few more seconds) the system boots OK. Giving more wait for HDD in BIOS settings does nothing... it actually doesn't wait at all... Also... the Pause button does not stop the POST... cause it was a viable solution instead of Alt+Ctrl+Del or reset :D Edit 2. Just so I clarify that my problems had nothing to do with the actual possibility of porting everything to SSD after drive change.. I have to add that after 2 days the pause button started to work and I could pause a bit the boot sequence thus the system was able to boot OK from a cold start and after one more day it just boots normally without any pause... dunno why but... this is what it does. All OK. :) Edited June 8, 2013 by zaelu [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
billsimm Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Hi All, sorry been busy IRL, I finally got round to installing the ssd. all went well, the big problem for me was getting windows 7 64bit to reconized the drive but once that was installed i just cloned my c drive using EaseUS todo backup free (http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid+state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows), followed the instructions on the web page, booted from the new ssd and all is well. I had no need to input any serial numbers at all, just started DCS World as normal. Hope this helps someone.
coilwinder Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 I went on migrating current OS path. My system has some "minor" problems from time to time and reinstalling is not worth it. I think with horror to reinstall drivers and settings and little this and that... When I will upgrade to Haswell CPU I'll do a reinstall. I was thinking, maybe the (BIOS) battery in your motherboard is bad? Causing it to loose settings. About your pause key I have really no idea. Faulty keyboard? Btw I'm with you on dreading those complete reinstalls of everything. I also turn off all automatic updating (except antivirus) when things work the way I want. (But, as it is a good 3 years and two motherboards since my last install, and I got me a new SSD - first one btw - I thought it was about time and so I did all that anyway.. I have some issues ofc but I hope I will get it fixed soon-ish.. DCS stutters unfortunately).
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