Wilczek Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Hello, We've flown yesterday sortie and were spotted and attacked by Roland ADS. According to track data, one of our planes was shot down at 22k ft ASL, while missile was launched at 550 ft ASL. It gives height difference about 6500 m, which actually is is according to encyclopedia effective range of this missile... but first of all aircraft wasn't straight above launcher. Range at time of shot was 7700 m at impact it was 7200 m. All this exceed envelop according to Encyclopedia... and at top of all, effective max altitude of missile is said to be 5500m... So is this a bug? Or encyclopedia data is wrong? Or neither? :) :pilotfly: -- One more - there was no RWR warning about tracking nor missile detection - while guys, who were a lot bellow got missile warning... Edited August 12, 2013 by Wilczek
Grimes Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 The in-game encyclopedia has a few entries that aren't 100% accurate as it doesn't mirror the sims weapon data. By that I mean the encyclopedia is its own text file that isn't always updated whenever missile data gets changed, so there are bound to be discrepancies. The lack of RWR or missile detection warning just indicates that there are in fact blind spots in these systems so it all depends on where the missile is launched from in comparison to your own aircraft. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Wilczek Posted August 20, 2013 Author Posted August 20, 2013 So is there any place where I can find accurate data about this missiles?
Suchacz Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Wiki for some basic facts - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_(missile) Edited August 20, 2013 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
GGTharos Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 I don't believe so. It's always possible that these systems mention a high probablity of kill employment zone, or that they do so vs. a particular type target. It is possible that range is extended a little against some types of targets. In the falklands war one of the destroyers launched a missile slightly outside of design range and hit its target. So is there any place where I can find accurate data about this missiles? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Spetz Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 So is there any place where I can find accurate data about this missiles? Not at the unclassified level. Open source and real data can differ significantly, even by 20-30 nm is some larger SAMS.
Wilczek Posted August 21, 2013 Author Posted August 21, 2013 Wiki for some basic facts - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_(missile) Not what I meant at all. Data there matches one in encyclopedia. So it doesn't match the one in game :) I was wondering about some source of in game parameters.
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