Moving DCS World

[Phantom88]

Hello Guy's,With the recent announcement that The New Nevada Map will be a Whopping 26GB I'm going to be a little crammed for space on my SSD.

 

I have a conventional HD on my PC with over 800GB of free space that I'd like to move DCS World to.

 

What problems will I have if I do this? Also,I was thinking of buying a external SSD and moving DCS World to that,would this work without any problems?

 

Thanks very much for your help

Cheers:thumbup:

[cichlidfan]

If you just move it, and change your desktop shortcuts then it will work just fine. Your Start Menu shortcuts will also be broken but most people never use them.

[Lange_666]

Or use some AppMover to do the work for you. No need to mess around with your shortcuts. Just PM me your e-mail adress and i'll ship it over. Works great.

[CypherGrunyev]

You guys are going to run me dry.

 

Seriously. Now I have to go buy a 512GB SSD Because DCS's Next world is probably going to be like 30 GB

 

:(

 

Also who else wants to bomb the strip in Sukhois? Anyone?

[xaoslaad]

You can always add the disk to your PC, move the contents (not the folder itself) of the DCS World folder to somewhere temporary (say a folder on your desktop, somewhere easy to keep track of it), mount the disk under the DCS World folder instead of/in addition to giving it a drive letter, and then move the contents of the folder back. (more or less like this: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11253-mount-drives-partitions-folder.html)

 

No messing with changing registry entries or mucking with short cuts.

 

I feel your pain though. I went up to a 240GB SSD from a 120GB. I only had ~32 GB free. 26GB was going to be SERIOUSLY pushing it. I doubt I could have the installer on the drive and install it at the same time even... Hopefully by the time I need a 500 the prices are way way down.

 

FWIW the Samsung EVO SSD's have been on sale a lot lately. My 120 and the other I have in my other system were the previous (non-pro) samsung 840 ssd's and they have treated me well so far. I don't think they're the fastest, but they seemed reliable. Considering I've only had the EVO like 2 days I can't speak much for it, save that the price was reasonable on sale.

Edited October 19, 2013 by xaoslaad

[Ryan Barnes]

That's why I got a 1TB SSD. People told me I was wasting my money and I only needed a 120 for gaming. I'm glad now I doubted that.

[xaoslaad]

Yep. I can find use for a 120GB SSD, but if you have the money when buying, go bigger than you think you'll need. :)

[Phantom88]

Thank You for all your help and ideas.I think I'll try Lange 666 solution.

Cheers

[JayPee]

Also,I was thinking of buying a external SSD and moving DCS World to that,would this work without any problems?

Don't. You will never be able to profit from the SSD's speed advantage if you hook it up externally. What ever vendors are trying to sell you in terms of Mbps is all theoretical. Effective sequential throughput will be a joke.

 

Source: trial and error + reports from others.

[Rhinox]

Don't. You will never be able to profit from the SSD's speed advantage if you hook it up externally. What ever vendors are trying to sell you in terms of Mbps is all theoretical. Effective sequential throughput will be a joke.

Oh really? I have one SSD in external enclosure, I connect it to my PC using eSATA, and guess what? Speed (be it sequential or random) is the same, as if the drive was mounted in PC. Quite logically, as eSATA is basically just SATA with a few mods (higher voltage, longer cable allowed, higher resistancy to errors, slightly different connector, etc).

[JayPee]

Yes, but since he is talking about a 120GB SSD (relatively small compared to recent standards) I'm assuming his hardware is slightly older than gear which comes equipped with eSATA by default nowadays. Hence I have a feeling he's heading for USB.

 

It's not impossible for him to have eSATA but he'd probably have mentioned it if were the case given the subject of the topic.

 

And yes, eSATA performs roughly equal to SATA. You just don't want to use an SSD via USB if you're in it for the performance.

[Rhinox]

Even if he has older hardware, free sata-port and sata-bracket is all he needs. Taken into account one can buy external case for 2.5" disk (that is also SSD) for about 15€ I think nobody will attache it using usb...

[xaoslaad]

How would USB 3 hold up? Anyone know? I don't, but I'd be curious.

 

Also be wary of pci-e 1x sata iii expansion cards. They can not hold up to sata iii 6gbps speeds (but they will get you more than sata ii), though I believe there are one or two x4 cards on the market now that should be able to live up to a sata iii ssd's full performance.

[cichlidfan]

I have never done a real test but an SSD on a USB3 port is pretty damned fast!! I have a 60GB, in an USB 3 external case, that I treat like a flash drive.

[Rhinox]

...Also be wary of pci-e 1x sata iii expansion cards. They can not hold up to sata iii 6gbps speeds (but they will get you more than sata ii), though I believe there are one or two x4 cards on the market now that should be able to live up to a sata iii ssd's full performance.

Depends on PCIe version. PCIe v3.0 has per-lane speed ~1000MB/s. More exactly it is a little bit less, (128/130)*8Gbit. So it is enough to have mobo with PCIe v3.0 and 1x sata3-expansion card with the same PCIe-specification. ~950MB bus-speed is more than most of todays SSDs can offer...

[xaoslaad]

Fair enough statement. I just looked up my board specs again and it has pci-e 3.0 16x slots and 2.0 1x slots. It's not the newest thing on the block for sure (z77 mpower), so maybe 3.0 x1 slots (and cards) are becoming more common now? Anyway, just something to be aware of.

[Rhinox]

I have never done a real test but an SSD on a USB3 port is pretty damned fast!! I have a 60GB, in an USB 3 external case, that I treat like a flash drive.

Practical limit of USB 3.0 is ~450MB/s. That might be on the edge of some new SSDs (i.e. 840Pro has sequential read/write speed over 500MB/s). But it is still much better than USB 2.0 of course (which was not only slower, but also half-duplex)...

[EtherealN]

Hello Guy's,With the recent announcement that The New Nevada Map will be a Whopping 26GB I'm going to be a little crammed for space on my SSD.

 

I have a conventional HD on my PC with over 800GB of free space that I'd like to move DCS World to.

 

What problems will I have if I do this? Also,I was thinking of buying a external SSD and moving DCS World to that,would this work without any problems?

 

Thanks very much for your help

Cheers:thumbup:

 

External SSD seems like a silly idea; any advantages of it being an SSD is liable to get negated by interface-imposed latencies and bottlenecks. (Not constantly or by necessity, but seems to me to be unecessarily exposing yourself to issues that might arise in certain usercases and cause inexplicable performance degradation at unpredictable times.)

 

Generally, simply uninstall the game, install on your new HDD, resume gameplay. Your savedgames, configurations etcetera are saved in the Windows SavedGames folder, so you will not lose these. Some user mods might be lost and require reinstallation, if you use them and depending on their method of application.

 

Don't worry about the 26GB number. Wait for release before you do anything grand to your setup, imo.

Edited October 25, 2013 by EtherealN

[JayPee]

+1

 

My point exactly, perhaps I didnt elaborate on it as much as you did.