GAJ52 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Hi I'm getting a little confused now with these simulation terms. When it was the A-10C and Blackshark I knew that the aircraft simulated was going to be a real study sim. Now with these 'dumbed down' Flaming Cliff derivatives that DCS is producing, I don't know if the F-15C AFM is off the A-10C standard or the lesser Flaming Cliffs offerings. Can anyone enlighten me please. GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
Revelation Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Say What? How can you not understand something that has been clearly stated several times??? (sorry for that) Bottom line is the AFM for the F-15 will be on par with the FM of the A-10C. It will not include clickable cockpits, this is simply a FM upgrade. FC3 was released at the request of the community and as a way to generate some short term cash flow for ED. FC was around LONG before DCS was a wet dream.... 1 Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
TurboHog Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 It will be AFM with Flaming Cliffs style avionic modelling. Certain things like dynamic engine operation, fluid modelling, sub-systems and accurate damage modelling are left out. So basicly an FC aircraft with AFM. Nothing more than that. 'Frett'
Irregular programming Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 DCS was never about being only study sims. It was about getting rid of any ties to ubisoft.
GAJ52 Posted December 8, 2013 Author Posted December 8, 2013 Say What? How can you not understand something that has been clearly stated several times??? (sorry for that) Bottom line is the AFM for the F-15 will be on par with the FM of the A-10C. It will not include clickable cockpits, this is simply a FM upgrade. FC3 was released at the request of the community and as a way to generate some short term cash flow for ED. FC was around LONG before DCS was a wet dream.... If you can't answer without being rude don't bother answering mate. For the others, many thanks for the explanation :thumbup: GAJ52 Intel i7-7700K @ 4.60GHz | 32 GB Ram | Win 10 Pro 64 | GTX 1080i 11.00MB | Saitek X52 Pro
Vekkinho Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Yeah, it can get you confused in no time. There's FC and there's DCS level of systems complexity. DCS has only few available study platforms (Ka-50, A-10C and P-51) none of which are BVR or dogfighters. So in order to have someone attacking and protecting those DCS:A-10C and DCS:Ka-50 pilots in the MP map ED had to bring FC and DCS a bit closer to eachother. So they made DCS:World that's free. It's a good way of getting into it as DCS-W can be used to see if you can at least run any of the payware stuff on your rig. It's a pretty much shareware thing with flyable Su-25T. Now with DCS-W, FC3 users flying airdominance fighters (MiGs, Suhois, 15C) could play along DCS:A-10C and DCS:Ka-50 players. The only difference is that FC3 users don't spend so much time toggling switches as DCS:A-10C users do. Players who have DCS-World installed can buy single modules of featured FC3 aircraft such as so far available Su-25: DCS-FC and A-10A: DCS-FC and soon to be F-15C:DCS-FC. This does not mean that F-15C:DCS-FC will have all of the features of DCS:A-10C like clickable cockpit, complex engine startup etc. It will only get similar FM (of a same level of complexity). I believe this was a move ED had to come up with as a full blown DCS:F-15C is quite impossible due to classified avionic systems data. As you can see unclassified aircraft data available today are P-51D, Fw-190, Cessna 172 etc. C'mon, we want something from at least 1981...So simplyfied avionics / complex FM combo is the only way for ED to launch at least 2 DCS-FC modules a year. With each new X-XX:DCS-FC module standalone FC3 users can patch up to a same AFM level. Edited December 9, 2013 by Vekkinho rephrasing [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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