Flagrum Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 AN/ARC-164 HAVE QUICK II AGM-142 Have Nap etc. The US have a hand for inventing abbreviations that are also words that fit somewhat into the context. Just think about the AGM-88 HARM ((High-Speed-Anti-Radiation-Missile; but also: what will it do to the enemy? It will harm it.). Or the "USA PATRIOT Act" (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act)... But already the first time I learned about the radios of the A-10C, I struggled with the term "HAVE QUICK". I know the words ofc, but I can not make any sense of it in this context. A few minutes ago I stumbled upn the AGM-142 "HAVE NAP" and it is the same. The words as such make no sense to me - (especially?) as non-native speaker. So, is there an actual "story" behind these words, do they actually HAVE (lol) a meaning here or are they just some (randomly?) choosen code words of some designation system? And whatever the reasoning behind it is, why is "HAVE" used so often?
AlphaOneSix Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 HAVE * is just a program name. As far as I know, it is not an acronym and has no particular meaning. Lots of program names in the U.S. government have "random" program names like this. HAVE QUICK was a program to develop frequency hopping as a means to combat jamming and to increase communication security. I'd never heard of HAVE NAP until just now, but it seems weird to call it that as a name, since it usually refers to a project or program and not a thing itself, although maybe the program to get Popeye missiles from the Israelis was called HAVE NAP and they never really gave the weapon itself a proper name (other than AGM-142) and the "HAVE NAP" name stuck? HAVE BLUE was the Lockheed stealth fighter program that resulted in the F-117 Nighthawk. TACIT BLUE is Northrop program for a low-observable surveillance plane. I don't think any of those are acronyms, the government just likes ALL CAPS for project names for some reason. Well, they like ALL CAPS FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING, IT'S MADDENING!
fltsimbuff Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Forgive me for resurrecting a year-old thread, but I just stumbled across this while trying to answer the same question (what does "Have" mean in the context of code names). Another one that gets me is "Rivet." Rivet Joint, Rivet Ball, Rivet Amber, etc. Rivet usually seems to be used with RECCE systems, so the first letter may have significance. This one also seems to be used on operational systems rather than just project code-names. And then there is Tacit Blue, Tacit Rainbow, and probably many others. "Tacit" usually refers to something done silently, so that makes sense for a stealth aircraft (Tacit Blue) and also to the passive anti-radiation missile (Tacit Rainbow) to some extent. So, does anyone else have any code-names to add? Any ideas on what (if anything) they mean?
Flagrum Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Heh ... maybe I should have done this a year ago already ... but right now google revealed this link: http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/codenames.html According to that, US Air Force project nicknames have to start with "HA" and there are also permanently assigned first words for two word nicknames. And guess what, "HAVE" is assigned to the Air Force Systems Command. So all airforce projects have(again: lol) to start with "HAVE"... ;o) Edited February 23, 2015 by Flagrum
fltsimbuff Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Great resource, thank you! I suppose we can mostly chalk up the rest of the naming to mostly randomness... with the exception of programs like "HAVE LEMON and HAVE LIME (related)." I wonder if there's a guy sitting behind a desk somewhere whose job it is to name these things...
mig29movt Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Have Blue Have Doughnut: the MiG-21 test flight on NNTR Have Ferry: MiG-17 testing [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
Aginor Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 When I read "Red Eagles" I stumbled over lots of them. Have Doughnut, Have Drill and so on. Pretty funny titles, I don't think they have any meaning though. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
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