Arrgghh Ubi Online!

[Hawg11]

Wow... here's more proof...

 

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/3691044204

 

 

Ok one last thing... i encourage anyone to play LockOn in any form they can... but if this Hawg11 genious is encouraging people to play on Ubi then im not sure what kind of deck he's dealing with....

 

Hmm...I guess I'm the kind of genious that's created 5 FPS savings modifications and 3 tutorials to try to help the community.

 

Genious? Kind of deck? Your attitude reflects that you really don't encourage people to play lockon in any form they can; it's quite clear by the insulting comments you made about me.

 

As WhiskeyRomeo stated, "Telling a new 1.02 owner the ONLY way to fly online is buy the Flaming Cliffs upgrade and go to Hyperlobby to fly is just wrong because its not true."

 

There's also nothing wrong with suggesting people play at UBI on the UBI board. You'll notice I made no such comments here on the ED board.

 

An alternative to this problem could be to suggest to ED to make LockOn updates compatible for online play.

 

P.S. Genious is spelled "genius," genius.

[3Sqn_Fudd]

Hmm...I guess I'm the kind of genious that's created 5 FPS savings modifications and 3 tutorials to try to help the community.

 

Genious? Kind of deck? Your attitude reflects that you really don't encourage people to play lockon in any form they can; it's quite clear by the insulting comments you made about me.

 

As WhiskeyRomeo stated, "Telling a new 1.02 owner the ONLY way to fly online is buy the Flaming Cliffs upgrade and go to Hyperlobby to fly is just wrong because its not true."

 

There's also nothing wrong with suggesting people play at UBI on the UBI board. You'll notice I made no such comments here on the ED board.

 

An alternative to this problem could be to suggest to ED to make LockOn updates compatible for online play.

 

P.S. Genious is spelled "genius," genius.

 

Hi Hawg11

 

Yeh I was little bit charged up. My impression was that there was an old hand 1.02 pilot who enjoyed shooting down noobs and I let my feelings get the best of me. Some things however, are evident.

 

Here's the deal... when I went to UBI Online and informed all I could, a significant amount of people had no idea and were happy to know that the people had upgraded. My point (and I described this before) is that the frontloaded UBI gives the impression that UBI (and thus 1.02) is the only place to play.

 

As for the quote "Telling a new 1.02 owner the ONLY way to fly online is buy the Flaming Cliffs upgrade and go to Hyperlobby to fly is just wrong because its not true." No one has said this, why would they… if you’re in UBI talking to people it would be rather ridiculous to convey that.

 

I imagine this thread is about done… the points are taken and I still encourage all to head over occasionally and inform any 1.02 players that’s there’s a community beyond UBI’s.

[WhiskeyRomeo]

As for the quote "Telling a new 1.02 owner the ONLY way to fly online is buy the Flaming Cliffs upgrade and go to Hyperlobby to fly is just wrong because its not true." No one has said this, why would they… if you’re in UBI talking to people it would be rather ridiculous to convey that.

What about passing that type of information in Community forums? This is a sticky in the other forum.

 

 

 

Any one want to speculate what happens when Black Shark gets released?

Are we going to see the 1.12 users ending up at Ubi.com because no one is hosting Flaming Cliffs servers here?

 

Or are you going to come up with a way to make HL friendly to ALL versions of LockOn, along with all skill levels of LockOn fliers?

[Prophet_169th]

There's also nothing wrong with suggesting people play at UBI on the UBI board. You'll notice I made no such comments here on the ED board.

 

I would agree with you if UBI had decided to continue publishing the product.

 

UBI is the devil.

[Prophet_169th]

Or are you going to come up with a way to make HL friendly to ALL versions of LockOn, along with all skill levels of LockOn fliers?

 

HL is currently friendly with all version of LO.

 

You even see a 1.02 server once in a while.

 

How many 1.12 servers do you see in UBI?

 

When is UBI gonna become friendly period?

[3Sqn_Fudd]

What about passing that type of information in Community forums? This is a sticky in the other forum.

 

 

 

Any one want to speculate what happens when Black Shark gets released?

Are we going to see the 1.12 users ending up at Ubi.com because no one is hosting Flaming Cliffs servers here?

 

Or are you going to come up with a way to make HL friendly to ALL versions of LockOn, along with all skill levels of LockOn fliers?

 

 

I don't speak for Jaws or anyone else... I do however agree that qualitatively HL is the only place to play.

 

as for 1.12 being on UBI? Dunno... my hope is that all people learn that there's something more than UBI. Something I know alot of new people aren't aware of.

[WhiskeyRomeo]

HL is currently friendly with all version of LO.

The lobby software may be friendly but the HL community could do a LOT more to foster a friendly, fun Lock On experiance especially for new pilots and even the occasional online players. Dropping a new pilot into an ace level server is a fast and easy way to loose that new pilot.

 

No 1.02 games up in HL at the moment but I have seen the one server up lately and a few 1.02 pick up games even. And 3 empty ACE level 1.12 servers.

 

Why are so few of the people who pass through Ubi.com to Hyperlobby no longer flying @ HL?

[Weta43]

Anybody close enough to Wolfie to get the beginners nights started once a month & to Ice to get the threads about getting started online & the server list brought back to the first page?

[Prophet_169th]

The UBI software sucks. I couldnt even get the chat interface to work, if there was any. The version # column showed undetected for all servers, there were 3. (just logged in again, got a message that the chat is permanently disabled) <- Well that sure helps the experience!

 

Not even 1 minute in the lobby, and I had a private chat with a guy asking about the game. He couldnt get into the servers, he needed the 1.02 patch. I also talked with him at length about 1.1 and this site. He never even knew. I hope to see him here, and in HL.

 

And I have no idea what you are talking about WR. I only speak english, so I have no idea what other people have said, but I have found everyone who asks a question 90% of the time answered. I answer questions usually at great detail when needed. Maybe the UBI community is nicer since there is no chat..... ;)

 

Hawg and WR, if you were so concerned about new players and how attractive the server is, then you fork out the money to put one up, go and put up a veterans server/easy server, whatever. I have helped pay for our server, and I would like competition. I sure would hate to get my butt wooped more than I do, because people are taking advantage of the situation.

 

It hard enough dealing with Su33/27 loaded with R77.

 

Having externals on, so you can police those loads, only for people to spy with F2.

 

There is more than enough help online to get training. Heck I have never even read the LOMAC manual or docs, and I have learned everything from being online, in HL. I may not be able to dodge a missile, but I can effectively use every weapon system in the game, I know how to IFF, all from the help of HL.

 

UBI will get no support from me. All the posts are deleted, but they care nothing for the customer.

[Hawg11]

My impression was that there was an old hand 1.02 pilot who enjoyed shooting down noobs and I let my feelings get the best of me.

Figure that. Your sig shows that you're a noob, yourself (Join Date: Dec 2005).

 

I just want more people to shoot and more people to shoot at me...

Pure genious! ;) That's what I want, too! You should hold off from judging other's intentions until you've been around for a while.

 

I'll also be making a UBI thread titled "Play Online With Hyperlobby" and will be occasionally bumping it so it stays on the first page

You should also post it at the Flanker (lockon's predecessor) forum.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/frm/f/73610606

This probably won't sink in right away, rookie. But some people will play Flanker, others Lockon 1.02, some FC, and others BC. I'm only trying to get the players already playing 1.02 to join me online. I am in no way trying to keep people from upgrading to FC, or BC.

 

The lobby software may be friendly but the HL community could do a LOT more to foster a friendly, fun Lock On experiance especially for new pilots and even the occasional online players. Dropping a new pilot into an ace level server is a fast and easy way to loose that new pilot.

 

No 1.02 games up in HL at the moment but I have seen the one server up lately and a few 1.02 pick up games even. And 3 empty ACE level 1.12 servers.

 

Why are so few of the people who pass through Ubi.com to Hyperlobby no longer flying @ HL?

 

Yep. If hosts leave things like labels on, to attract new players, each "Ace" client still has the option to turn off labels in-game (commensurate with his/her skill level). Small things like that allure and keep players flying.

 

Hawg and WR, if you were so concerned about new players and how attractive the server is, then you fork out the money to put one up

Why should I bother hosting a server at HL, when there's lots of folks to fly with at Ubi in 1.02? I host when I join Ubi's lobby and I do load settings similar to what you mentioned.

 

Conversely, why don't you see if the 169th can have a server dedicated to the UBI lobby playing 1.11, 1.12? Maybe you could drum up some interest for FC that way. If you have complications with UBI's lobby software, I'd be glad to help troubleshoot. I'm not sure if you guys are doing something different than I am, but there are the same amount of steps to get into a game from the HL lobby as there are from UBI's.

 

Ubi's chat is disabled; it's in bold letters as you enter the lobby. Most folks at UBI go there to play and use the chat function within the game.

[3Sqn_Fudd]

Figure that. Your sig shows that you're a noob, yourself (Join Date: Dec 2005).

 

Hrmmmm i recall my very first contact with this game as sometime late in 2004, around your join date of November 2004. I ended up earning 169th wings late in 2005.

 

At any rate... you're right Hawg ... keep playing the still awesome version of 1.02 and enjoy the new pilots. I know for you it will be hard, but do try and hold their interest as they walk through the door. I promise I'll pop in to inform them that there exists a place where more advanced versions of the game are played; one thats not parsed in the terms "1.02 Has Strong Online Following at UBI, More Overall Players Than HL At Times"

 

Thats all this was really about... Cheers Hawg11

 

 

Guys click this (exceedingly neutral) thread I made and add to it whatever you feel is neccesary http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/1091083114

[Jetfire]

:(

 

It sucks that we can't all play Lockon in the same spot.

 

I forgot about this, but 1.02 has a few serious exploits that they addressed in 1.1. It affected turn rates dramatically, and used sparingly, could go completely unnoticed. Oh trust me, ED received many messages from myself and others about this.

[Shaman]

Performance and stability fixes in 1.1-to->1.12 has absolutely changed the way I played 1.0->1.02 LockOn - that stuttered with each friggin event and every single cluster bomblet.

 

1.0-1.02 is for masochists.

 

I've been one, till 1.1 release... thank god and ED for that addon and patch.

[Hawg11]

keep playing the still awesome version of 1.02 and enjoy the new pilots. I know for you it will be hard, but do try and hold their interest as they walk through the door.

 

Either you're being sarcastic and don't actually feel 1.02 is still awesome, or you are insulting me again.

 

If it's another insult, that's the kind of (persistent and destructive) attitude that WhiskeyRomeo and I have been talking about.

[S77th-konkussion]

Good job Prophet. Let's get em the hell outta there. I'd like to help, but honestly.. I'm kind of afraid to install it.. :P

[Hawg11]

I'd like to help, but honestly.. I'm kind of afraid to install it.. :P

 

Cool. More noob's for me :)

 

[S77th-konkussion]

Labels & worshipped by noobs. Yup. Your desire to keep what's left of 1.02 online is all starting to make sense now

[Hawg11]

Labels & worshipped by noobs. Yup. Your desire to keep what's left of 1.02 online is all starting to make sense now

 

Don't forget to add my desire to see Eagle go out of business to your little conspiracy theory. :)

 

 

Join me!

[Frostie]

I don't see the problem with what being said bout how crap Ubi is Hawg.

What you should be doing is trying to create a 1.02 community on Hyperlobby.

Drum up some interest in your beloved Ubi and get these guys interested in the main stream community, instead of wasting your time checking if Ubi has more numbers.

You know it makes sense so stop being a stubborn old dog and help this game survive. :icon_jook

[Hawg11]

I don't see the problem with what being said bout how crap Ubi is Hawg.

 

I, too, do not see a problem with people saying that UBI is crap; they are entitled to their opinions.

 

What you should be doing is trying to create a 1.02 community on Hyperlobby.

 

Why should I create a 1.02 community at HL when a strong one already exists at UBI? It's couter-productive. Players go where other players are. What part of that don't you get?

 

Drum up some interest in your beloved Ubi and get these guys interested in the main stream community, instead of wasting your time...

 

So, you want me to load UBI, PM everyone to tell them I'm at HL, Close UBI, load HL, host a gunzo mission and wait...hoping someone joins my game?

 

To me, it would be less of a "waste of time" to load UBI, Host a gunzo mission and start playing with others online right away. Wouldn't you agree?

 

You know it makes sense...

 

*Trance mode on* It does make sense. It does make sen...hey wait a minute!*Trance mode off*

You almost had me :) Are you a hypnotist?

[S77th-konkussion]

Find one utterance of those words leaving my keyboard.

[Hawg11]

 

Join me!

[Prophet_169th]

UBI being crap, and that software being crap, is not an opinion. Its fact.

 

Fact, UBI dumped LOMAC and so they are crap. Thats a fact. What part of THAT dont YOU understand.

 

Fact, the only thing UBI software allows you to do is start a game. No chat, no room description, no version #. Crap.

You know why they disabled the chat? Probably because people were talking about FC....... and BS.........

 

No offense Hawg, but you should focus your energy on a place that still supports the game.

 

What will you do with all your newbs when UBI no longer supports LOMAC? Where if you had been helping everyone get to HL, then when UBI dumps you, no one would notice.

 

Also, for the same reason you have no wish to host a game in HL, is the same reason no one else wants to host a labels on spam vest. Waste of time.

 

No one has suggested an conspiracy theories or anything. So quit playing it off with the stupid devil message like they have.

 

Fact is, people should support the community. UBI does NOT do this, and that IS a fact. Prove me otherwise.....

[Hawg11]

I can appreciate you getting heated because you are passionate about the subject. I like that.

 

My guess is UBI disabled chat because other players were talking crap to each other. But since neither one of us were there at the time, it's all speculation. But right now we're discussing facts, right?

 

Anyway, UBI has a forum and a lobby which supports LockOn. Here's the address.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=frm&s=400102&f=38610606

That means it's a fact.

 

There are new players who are assisted there (some of which I've helped) for all versions of Lockon.

Here are some threads that prove this for a fact:

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/6941075114

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/3571031114

 

Now, prove to me I'm wrong. (Try to use facts.)

 

I'm not sure what other kind of support you want, but I don't think they'll be coming over to give you a massage.

 

I've only got 7 of these left to go.

[Prophet_169th]

Having a forum, is not support. That only provides a place for other people to support them.

 

Fact, you provided the support, not UBI.

 

Fact, we get support from ED here as often as from the community.

 

The link to UBI's forum should just be a redirect here.