Hell I'd move to lock this topic. It's going nowhere and what's the point of it all? Granted I've been doing other things so I haven't been really too active (well okay, a little more than usual) but what I've gleaned from the Ubi board is that the mods are getting extreme... or the posters are getting extreme, so it seems really unclear (to me anyways) just what the problem is.
So I guess I'll take a stab out of the dark. Lo.ru site goes down, cats and dogs start living together, and nobody is happy about it. Mods.... I think take a preemptive strike and try and quell the riots, but it excites the rioting, and here we are, Page 8 on another "Why is this?" topic. I mean I guess in retrospect it's a little of both. Nobody expected (hell I don't even ED) the site to go down, okay, the world is still turning, and gravity is still present. So in essence, I think everybody seems to be overreacting because the site was down, and nobody got information, but wanted it NOW! Mods overreacted and we are at this juncture. So in essence, we're all to blame as the small community we are, because we all want to see BS, but not have to deal with alot of bs. But nobody realizes that at it's heart, LO is a freakingly complex simulation. Back in the day, we'd find and fix a problem, then something else would mess up. And we'd be back before Square 1 even is considered.
So I think the reason is, that ED is at a juncture. Getting BS stable or workable is a real pain in the ass and they've hinted at, but not overly stated it, but duh, that's why it's taking so long. So people get stupid, and think ED isn't telling all, but then again, it's a product, they don't have to, the sim market, while small, is a tight market, and ED wants to be first. So while I don't think I could look at the mods and say they're wrong, or right, or maybe it's what they feel is making the best out of a bad situation. And it just spirals out of control, and continues until somebody finally has to say STOP! But the site going down? Whoopdee doo really, I mean most of the information I get comes from here, so why is it such a big deal? Does the main site have to be the hub? Which is why there is the forums here, to facilitate the information as best as possible.
We dealt with this with Lock On when it first came out, and we had the same spate of locks, deletes, bans. Matter of fact it still annoys me even though years past. From my point of view as still an active moderator on four sites, is that while the STFU attitude isn't always the best method I agree, but sometimes take a step, look at it again, before you start hammering away saying that ED is failing it's customers. And did you ever pay attention to the tags? All the moderators are currently also beta testers. Beta testing, is a royal pain in the ass. It seems cool and spiffy that you get to play with the new software, toy, etc. before everybody does, but you have to take an extroardinary amount of time to just look at EVERYTHING, from a bush looking stupid, textures, coding, programming. It's called a Fine Tooth Comb, and it can really stress you out sometimes, especially with deadlines, and oh by the way, I do have a life and job to lead too... And while people assume it's like The World is not Enough, from my experience, the only people who've done a pathetic job as far as execution was the GRAW2 MP test I participated. No direction, no accountability, just "here, play with it and we'll.. ask you about it sometime." That's pathetic. The LO team when I was part of it, is a bunch of people who nitpick every square centimeter of the sim, and it's shown through Lock On. As again, like a broken record, this simulation is so complex, is that people aren't thinking of that. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither can BS or even LO itself, ever. Sure it's annoying that it's not out, as I'm excited, but if you were in the devs shoes, how would you act any different?
Or maybe more simply, the mods are getting tired of the constant complaining when realistically, they can't do anything about it, and trying their best, and its not working out right?