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I think "presently" this mod is broken so am trying others routes, Thanks for your support.

Look Some of the posters have tried to impose what they want on my topic and have tried to lobby for the G over others/to the exclution of other Zipper variants. Even if they try to deny it read what they say and it isn't HARD to work out. Simple fact is that IFE are PROUDLY ITALIAN and as such are keen to bring ITALIAN designs to DCS. They don't have to build the Starfighter, The can actually build Agusta helicopters, Alenia G222 or Piaggo MS UAV. Even though the Italians (Aeritalia/AMI) did use some/build Gees early on. They did so, not because the wanted to, but because they didn't have the S model out of the design/testing phase yet. If you had bothered to read my last post you know I am not rejecting the Gee. and I have evolved my proposal. Isn't this a pretty low "put down" Surely you can do better than that, And no numbers dont matter otherwise we wouldn't be getting have got the Cristen Eagle. Simple fact is if IFE don't do the F-104s+ASA updates then NO BVR, it wont happen. And be the way Canadair CF-104 and Mitsubishi "Js" aren't "Gees". similar yes but they are builds that contain "locally designed & manufactured parts" and as such variants that have theyre own peculiarities. So we cant talk about "Actual combat users & they're impressions When did I ever mention a "paper" Phantom, All 3 Italian variant were the really deal and served AMI!!! So what, I want an authentic Miracle/Zipper S+, BIG DEAL!!! I dont care for or want the Kfir, it isn't up to you to impose YOUR solution down on me or others. I am not a sheep, and if I DONT follow along with the crowd SO BE IT. And by the the way some posters are being very parochial about what they want, It "IS" okay for others to have different views, who are you to play "Enforcer".

Re-read the first sentence of my last reply, it is the single most sentence in the whole post. If IFE builds a F-104s FF module it wouldn't be out of line to see them of ASA/ASA-m as upgrades maybe for a small fee. S> ASA>ASA-m also seems to offer IFE a Flexible pathway that makes them money. Having made money, IFE may be more inclined to offer TF/G models as well. Bremspropeller proposed we also build a TF model which after a short consideration I thought was a Brilliant Idea. So here's what I know think is a could be a good way for IFE to bring us the Zipper: F-104s-TF-104>F-104g>ASA>ASA-m, now surely that would be a good way to go about it don't you think? Simple fact is that in that time period you had limited choices if you were playing BLUFOR or non-aligned you could go French, Tomcat, Phantom or Zipper s. Now if you are role-playing a country that cannot afford 1-3,or have bad relations with the French, Then a Zipper s look quite inviting don't you think? Should you have the funds but Tomcat is unavoidable or unavailable due to USN getting priority. then this also give a Mission/campaign builder an option that I believe makes a good mission/campaign great. also in a 90s scenario the ASA models come into they're own as well. Thinking of countries such as Philippines, Columbia, various African states. Now did this really happen no, but it could have don't you think?

Now al we need is appropriate theater map to fly them. Hoping "Kola" extends south into Finland, Sweden, Norway, ELL & possibly Denmark. Map maker really need to layer era's onto map from the start. Really no reason for Orbx to develop Kola into a wwII era map. Sure not easy, but that why they get paid the big bucks.

Funnily enough It was suggested on my F-104 Starfighter thread that a 2 seat Starfigher would be a good variant to have. And it took less than a minute for me to process and come to the conclusion that it was a great idea. So I'm of the opinion, yes seat variants should be developed. Great as Person to Person interactive learning aids, but also as "Genuine" combat capabilities on they're own merit. So I'm all for it, you have my vote .

So congratulations Octopusg hope you are rewarded well for bringing in aircraft that fill a hole in DCS.

Really Really excited to see a WW 2 Soviet fighter model in DCS. It's certainly been a longtime coming. Now If we could get a Japanese fighter into DCS, this game might actually start fulfilling its potential.

So you come to the Italian FF Module maker and tell "them that DCS doesn't find that Italian "spec" Starfighter builds "Relevant". A genuine real life aircraft that was built in numbers and could offer a BVR capability from the mid 60s to the late 80's, Even though the AIM 7 Sparrow wasn't a great missile, It was used by the USAF in Europe(and worldwide) until Fox 3 emerged. And Sparrow was also used by RAF and the Swedish AF in the European theater for a majority of the "Cold War", Fact. Now part of the reason for Fox 1s "bad press" is due to a decision of the "Civilian" US administration to requirement to PID on all Vietnamese air force kills during the Vietnam war.It unsurprisingly got a lot of (gun less & Slat-less) early model Phantom crews killed/ captured. But that didn't mean Sparrow was necessarily bad. IF so "why" did the US continue to use Sparrow until they developed AMRAAM? And what about users that actually took Starfighter into Combat? Well this is were it gets interesting, Taiwan and Pakistan used "Starfighter" to great advantage against adversary aircraft that were subsonic and or used at the limits of their performance. The fact that a Starfighter Pilot could choose to engage and disengage was probably more important than having superior Fox 2, which neither Pakistan or Taiwan had. When the USAF took they're "Charlies" to the wars in Indochina they found quickly that Starfighter wasn't all that good for the strike mission. And It didn't have the juice to loiter in the Fighter mission, Fact is having a "Gun" wasn't as important as being able to pick and choose when to engage/ disengage., or having descent Fox 2s. Sorry but every thing you just said is so floored and wrong Any Italian spec Zipper is going to bring a great combination of capabilities to DCS world especially multiplayer early 60s thru to mid 80s scenarios. In the hands of someone that can make use of they're positives while managing the negatives will be able to get great benefits over REDAIR in said time period.

Definitly want it, just not sure USGOV wants to have it out in the public arena yet. Nighthawk is still in use today, with the US military https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35748/f-117-nighthawks-now-appear-to-be-flying-as-adversaries-in-red-flag-aerial-war-games https://www.businessinsider.com/retired-stealthy-f117s-appeared-again-to-train-against-fighter-jets-2021-9 https://eurasiantimes.com/us-air-force-confirms-its-bringing-worlds-first-stealth-fighter-aircraft-back-in-action/

Here's some Aardvark "Porn", Fantasy yes but would have been quite Do-able if the political will in (Australia) had been found. The US had other options so this wouldn't have worked for them. This capability would be an interesting thing to either mod or just add to an official "DCS" Aardvark module.

So they didn't carry out out any test firings? For me, I just want a non emitting ASM, sure it's no good for AAW destroyers/cruisers. I'm more interested in the capability. Norwegian F-16s were A/B +MLU birds Seeing we have the USAF spec Viper "Cee" we aren't getting it on that bird. I'd be willing to use a little "creative license" to see the Zipper gain an additional ASuW capability. And as great as mods go, I want something that doesn't break with the next update. Also would like a Zipper that can carry a B-43, not fair REDFOR gets all the fun

I tend of confuse (as someone From the farthest end of the Commonwealth) the Windsor succession of the time through the Edward VIII Abdication / Wallis Simpson (crisis?). And remembering all that Wartime footage from British Pathe News reinforces that incorrect impression. But any way "Long Live Elizabeth 2" You have my respect and admiration. You are my Only Sovereign, from now until I die. Rest well I'll be joining you soon. "Listen, I can only say this once!" Received a couple of yellow cards over the weekend. So I could say something, but don't want to be "red carded". Looks left then right for Herr Flic, breathes a sigh of relief

That statement takes it straight to the heart of the matter doesn't it? The player isn't using these maps excursively for WW2 scenarios as it is. As I've said over and over ED and the 3rd partie's have got to move away from period locking these maps,

You could start a campaign with a Nazi "sneak attack" in the early hours of 1st of September 1939 on Paris &/or London. Both France and The United Kingdom aren't at war yet so neither city is on a war footing. Beirut could be sitting in one of the ready rooms around London. Suddenly the alarm goes off-a moment later the young steward who serves Beirut and his chums Tea & scones and goes by the name of "Whitey Wipelordsass" informs him that "Jerry" has bombers over the channel and they are tracking towards London. Beirut "scarpers" in a "MANLEY" way to his Hurricane and rises "Heroically" into the air to "meet Jerry" and protect Queen & country. In the back of his mind he thinks "Lizey" " we will all always have Penzance" As his Hurricane "claws" it way over the skies of the great but unaware City of London as the Lion films band plays on. He thinks to himself ... "Lizey Even if Jerry shuffles me of this Mortal coil tonight..." He look eastward with grim trepidation... "Lizey know that you were my 1st, my only......" Suddenly an Angel's voice "melodically" an "Dulcitly" sings, "We will always have Penzance, where you got into my pants laa-la-la-laaaa". Now how can Beirut/ Or anyone not want night lighting to go along with this, Me, I'll be at Rene's chatting up Mademoiselle LabonQ.

Why stop there Why not "role" The Channel into it as well. I actually bought Normandy V.1 first and I really held off on the Channel. At the time reviewers seemed to be leaning in that (Normandy 44) direction. Look I just think Ugra need to go to ED and say, We should be responsible Central Europe( preferably all era's) and just be done with it. Really would like maps to be maps, not particular time periods.

Just a gentle reminder that that price is in USD. In my neck of the woods that is $15.6? on the google cc. I'm not saying this to be snarky, and I do believe that it is ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT IS WORTH IT as of 12:00pm 11/10/22 but it hasn't always been that way...

@ Beirut Please add Rene's Cafe.

Was just asking mainly because of users who have limited storage. I just installed a 2TB SSD solely for DCS, but It might be a problem for some PS. Also dont own N V.1 currently.

This is a Q&A so I don't think it is wrong to bring any of these issues discussed now. It is beneficial to work out these problems while they are still minor, rather than later. that said give ED/3rd parties time to reflect then propose the solutions.( a Few days at least).

Yes would very much like to how ED/ Ugra intend to resolve this. Will V.1 &V2.0 be required to be separate folders, or will they be merged? For the new player I am assuming that they only need/ be sold Normandy V.2.0. Is this assumption correct?

I think of maps as the paper the story is written on, the player(s) making the marks on that paper.

Yes I made that same judgement (initially) as well,I even called out another map maker over this as well. Which is way I asked about the "whole Globe project" I really think this would get us a way from excactly that issue.

So do you have any information on how the Vulcan API implementation is going? One thing that has kept me planted solidly on the fence is ED seems to go off in random directions sometimes. This seems to have negative consequences that potentially hinder 3rd parties, but mostly ED itself. I really see the "Global map Project" as a priority that can only deliver massive benefit to ED, 3rd party as well as the player community.

Really unusual layout, am I looking 4 or five runways here?

This is an Heathrow area airbase isn't it? It does match the one early in the film A quick wiki search seems to indicate Heathrow opened 46 is this correct? Anyway cool film.