GUFA

Yeah I want it so baaaad! I did post this on the Aerges page yesterday Members 11 Posted 15 hours ago (edited) I really hope that Aerges next FF module/s are the Dassault Mirage 3/5/50 for a couple of reasons. Despite seeing some cg picks of Argentine Mirage 3 from RAZBAM. RAZBAM itself seems to be denying that they are developing a Mirage 3 anytime soon. As far as I understand they are developing an AI model Mirage 3 Argentine spec as part of The South Atlantic Asset Pack. The Mirage 3 was used by the Spanish Air Force under the designation C. 11 at the start of 1970s. For those that are lobbying for F-104 Starfighter numbers acquired were roughly the same (slightly more mirages acquired). Neither would be hard for Aerges to develop as getting hold of Subject Matter Experts for both would be easy both from a builder and user perspective. I just think that an Aerges Mirage 3/5/50 would be the way to go because: A: India Foxt Echo VS seems to be leaning in the direction of developing a F-104 module after they finish the G-91. Seeing that the G-91 isn't a particularly complex aircraft (technically speaking) they may well be able to Build the F-104 quite quickly. 6S Duke seems to be teasing an IFE F-104s. Personally I would definitely love a F-104s-ASA chucking Sidewinder and Aspides in the sandbox. Just make sure to Add the underbody Sidewinder rails:) B: For Aerges the Mirage 3/5/50 the already have half built these Mirages when they built the F-1. The Atar in the F-1 is an update/upgrade of the 3's engine not a "Clean sheet" design. The Radar in the F-1 is an evolution of the 3's sensor (Thomson CSF Cyrano Ibis for the 3 with Cyrano 4 equipping the F-1). The main work for Aerges would be in the flight model not the engine/sensor. These factors indicate to me (obviously not a software developer) that an Aerges developed 3/5/50 could be developed quite quickly. And Having a Mirage 3 in a shorter development timescale (3-4 yrs for a 3 with a 5 and a 50 following later). I would probably go this route, A Radar Mirage 3 first, a Glass nose 5 second and a 50 third. Leave the "Zipper to IFE, hopefully they can get an F-104s- ASA in 5-6yrs after the "Gina". AND JUST BE CLEAR A KFIR IS NOT A MIRAGE 3. I" want both but this plan would (hopefully) get us both faster So do you think this route is a "better" route forward for our beloved "Miracle"? Tell me what you think

AS much as I would like A Mirage 3/5/50 module I would rather see RAZBAM complete the F-15E, Emb 314 ST( YES I realize that Ecuadorian AF Contract takes precedence). Get the Mig 23 MLA module moving. I also hope to see EE Lightning be developed after the Mig. And has I live about 40 minutes drive from RAAF Williamstown. I would dearly love to see a RAAF "Miracle" (RAAF Nickname for the 3s). Just don't see RAZBAM delivering within a decade at earliest. PS when ED finally delivers ground crew can we at startup, have a guy go around the front and chuck a bucketful of jet fuel into the intake;). Old RAAF startup Procedure:).

Taiwan Used "A" model Denmark,Norway and Turkey used Canadair CF-104s.

So your point? And that's the thing of it. in a 60s scenario simply use a basic loadout. As you move through the 70s,80s,90s you add BVR and even Anti Ship missiles (If you are lobbying for the "G" surely you would want to carry the Kormoran ASCM). Also I was reasonably sure Italian Airforce f-104s had the capability to use Marte ASM. And Norwegian F-104s could fire AGM 119 Penguin ASM. Cant seem to find confirmation though. Does anyone know if this is correct?

I Would like both/all But if I had to choose between one/ which comes first, the S it would be. I think if you tallied opinions of the combat users they probably wouldn't rate its attack capabilities. The USAF panned it quite hard after it deployed to Vietnam. Besides something from the early 60s that you can chuck Sparrows/ Aspides at OPFOR with(aside from the F-4) should add a great choice and would be good for balance for multiplayer campaign designers (as I aspire to be). This is one of the deficiencies in DCS at the moment not enough 50s-80s FB currently.

So it would be really nice if RAZBAM in the near future, hopefully (not long) after the "Mudhen" is released. So is death would rather like to be able to use the module before I "Kick the Bucket";) One thing I would really like to know is why is RAZBAM being so cagey on this? Simple fact is the Super Tucano is a pretty basic capability as far as an attack aircraft goes.Its a Turboprop with some WW1 era machine guns and the ability to carry a target designating pod that's in the order of 15 or so years old. And as such quite outdated. So nothing about this aircraft's capabilities are that remarkable and should trigger any OPSEC concerns if this module is released for the game. So these are my question to RAZBAM. Is the EMB 314 ST not to released as a "public" module FF at earliest opportunity because A: The Ecuadorian Air Force has OPSEC concerns, B: Embraer has some issues or C:some other tech secrets related issues? It just seems to me that there should be no reason that Military/ game module releases need to be staggered (with release of game module long after) as RAZBAM is seems implying. no tech on the Aircraft is particularly Remarkable. I doubt the Target pod is probably replaced with a newer/better one, radios are upgraded on yearly basis's. Datalink (link 16 are already in other modules otherwise Uncle Sam wouldn't have allowed RAZBAM to Develop the F-15E, So is a government contract going to possibly restrain RAZBAM's earnings. I don't see the need for RAZBAM to be so unclear with the community in regards to the EMB314. IS RAZBAM so worried that the government of Ecuador's chump change contract is more valuable than the earnings that RAZBAM would have from the game side of sales? Don't take this as a full on critique of RAZBAM most of it is genuine curiosity.

Thanks Duke looking forward to adding M 339 as my first combat module (DCS virgin here). Think it would make a great Fast FAC plane for the inexperienced. Didn't mean to imply IFE should talk for other 3rd parties.I was just being Cheeky lobbying/ floating the Idea of the Starfighter "Aerogallo"? as the next module after the "Gina" is done, mainly to the community.

Yes to any 50s Attack plane being a FF module, no to IFE being the ones to develop it after the "Gina".

So I recently posted this appeal on the Aerges page: Members 1 Posted 9 minutes ago (edited) I really hope that Aerges next FF module/s are the Dassault Mirage 3/5/50 for a couple of reasons. Despite seeing some cg picks of Argentine Mirage 3 from RAZBAM. RAZBAM itself seems to be denying that they are developing a Mirage 3 anytime soon. As far as I understand they are developing an AI model Mirage 3 Argentine spec as part of The South Atlantic Asset Pack. The Mirage 3 was used by the Spanish Air Force under the designation C. 11 at the start of 1970s. For those that are lobbying for F-104 Starfighter numbers acquired were roughly the same (slightly more mirages acquired). Neither would be hard for Aerges to develop as getting hold of Subject Matter Experts for both would be easy both from a builder and user perspective. I just think that an Aerges Mirage 3/5/50 would be the way to go because: A: India Foxt Echo VS seems to be leaning in the direction of developing a F-104 module after they finish the G-91. Seeing that the G-91 isn't a particularly complex aircraft (technically speaking) they may well be able to Build the F-104 quite quickly. 6S Duke seems to be teasing an IFE F-104s. Personally I would definitely love a F-104s-ASA chucking Sidewinder and Aspides in the sandbox. Just make sure to Add the underbody Sidewinder rails:) B: For Aerges the Mirage 3/5/50 the already have half built these Mirages when they built the F-1. The Atar in the F-1 is an update/upgrade of the 3's engine not a "Clean sheet" design. The Radar in the F-1 is an evolution of the 3's sensor (Thomson CSF Cyrano Ibis for the 3 with Cyrano 4 equipping the F-1). The main work for Aerges would be in the flight model not the engine/sensor. These factors indicate to me (obviously not a software developer) that an Aerges developed 3/5/50 could be developed quite quickly. And Having a Mirage 3 in a shorter development timescale (3-4 yrs for a 3 with a 5 and a 50 following later). I would probably go this route, A Radar Mirage 3 first, a Glass nose 5 second and a 50 third. Leave the "Zipper to IFE, hopefully they can get an F-104s- ASA in 5-6yrs after the "Gina". AND JUST BE CLEAR A KFIR IS NOT A MIRAGE 3. I" want both but this plan would (hopefully) get us both faster Edited 8 minutes ago by GUFA So Now I thought I would 'Dot the I, Cross the T". So How bout it 6S Duke, come onnn I know ya want to:).

I really hope that Aerges next FF module/s are the Dassault Mirage 3/5/50 for a couple of reasons. Despite seeing some cg picks of Argentine Mirage 3 from RAZBAM. RAZBAM itself seems to be denying that they are developing a Mirage 3 anytime soon. As far as I understand they are developing an AI model Mirage 3 Argentine spec as part of The South Atlantic Asset Pack. The Mirage 3 was used by the Spanish Air Force under the designation C. 11 at the start of 1970s. For those that are lobbying for F-104 Starfighter numbers acquired were roughly the same (slightly more mirages acquired). Neither would be hard for Aerges to develop as getting hold of Subject Matter Experts for both would be easy both from a builder and user perspective. I just think that an Aerges Mirage 3/5/50 would be the way to go because: A: India Foxt Echo VS seems to be leaning in the direction of developing a F-104 module after they finish the G-91. Seeing that the G-91 isn't a particularly complex aircraft (technically speaking) they may well be able to Build the F-104 quite quickly. 6S Duke seems to be teasing an IFE F-104s. Personally I would definitely love a F-104s-ASA chucking Sidewinder and Aspides in the sandbox. Just make sure to Add the underbody Sidewinder rails:) B: For Aerges the Mirage 3/5/50 the already have half built these Mirages when they built the F-1. The Atar in the F-1 is an update/upgrade of the 3's engine not a "Clean sheet" design. The Radar in the F-1 is an evolution of the 3's sensor (Thomson CSF Cyrano Ibis for the 3 with Cyrano 4 equipping the F-1). The main work for Aerges would be in the flight model not the engine/sensor. These factors indicate to me (obviously not a software developer) that an Aerges developed 3/5/50 could be developed quite quickly. And Having a Mirage 3 in a shorter development timescale (3-4 yrs for a 3 with a 5 and a 50 following later). I would probably go this route, A Radar Mirage 3 first, a Glass nose 5 second and a 50 third. Leave the "Zipper to IFE, hopefully they can get an F-104s- ASA in 5-6yrs after the "Gina". AND JUST BE CLEAR A KFIR IS NOT A MIRAGE 3. I" want both but this plan would (hopefully) get us both faster