quantum97

The module is already in a flyable state, and we still not received any information regarding Steam pre-order in newsletter. Is it still planned, or no steam preorder like always?

@BIGNEWY What about pre-purchase on Steam?

Maybe you're right.

It seems to me that the best solution to this problem would be to give people a choice, just like in the Ka-50 III module, where in the mission editor we can select either the 2022 or 2011 version. A similar approach could be applied to the MiG-29A, where one version would be in line with the official documentation provided to the Warsaw Pact countries, and in the other version, they could, for example, allow the integration of the R-27ER or even the HARM, which are weapons that were actually used on this platform but not on the unmodernized version. Especially since it doesn't seem like we'll be getting a newer Russian fighter anytime soon. I think this would leave no one unsatisfied.

@Esac_mirmidon I understand your point of view, and I don't have any issues with the people I’m discussing this with. The only issue I have is with ED. On one hand, they claim to replicate the aircraft as accurately as possible based on available data and refuse to add, for example, the AGM-154-A1 to the F-16. On the other hand, they make such a mistake and plan to add a missile to the MiG-29A that wasn’t in service at the beginning of the aircraft's operational history because it hadn’t been upgraded to carry that missile yet. To me, this is pure hypocrisy on ED’s part, and they really need to decide exactly what they're doing and what we can expect from them. Here we have an example of ED's hypocrisy: I personally hope that the MiG-29A in DCS will be modeled as accurately as possible, which is why I participate in the forum and do so to prevent ED from making any glaring mistakes. I hope they will approach this module with the same care they have shown with previous ones, at least in terms of making it as realistic as possible. As for unrealistic missiles, we have modders who do an excellent job. I think the implementation of the R-27ER by modders for the MiG wouldn’t be a problem, and they would do it on the first day after the release, especially since we already have the R-27ER in DCS.

What @AeriaGloria presented above are anecdotal pieces of evidence. We're talking about the MiG-29A here, not its modernizations, updates etc. Nowhere in the publicly available manuals that were provided to Warsaw Pact countries is there any mention of the R-27ER. Even in the scientific paper comparing the capabilities of the F-16 and MiG-29 from the Polish Air Force Academy, the R-27ER is not mentioned. Additionally, on airwar.ru, the MiG-29 in its A version is not listed as a user of the R-27ER. The fact that someone said something in the past is not proof of anything if we don't have confirmation from reliable sources. Sources: https://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/r27.html The PDF contains the scientific article. Analiza_możliwości_bojowych_samolot.pdf

As for the MiG-29 in the Russian version, it may be true, but ED itself said that it is making an export version. Regarding the other threads, I will review them, although it would be best to have a clear statement from someone at ED.

I’ve noticed a small inconsistency in the FAQ regarding the upcoming MiG-29A. In the section detailing the missiles that will be available for the aircraft, it states that the MiG-29A will be able to use the R-27ER and R-27ET. The issue here is that, based on available historical and technical information, no Warsaw Pact country ever equipped the MiG-29A with the R-27ER or R-27ET versions in its unmodernised version. The R-27ER and R-27ET were developed and deployed later, on upgraded MiG-29 variants such as the MiG-29S and MiG-29SMT, which featured more advanced radar systems and modernized engines. In Yefim Gordon's book "Mikoyan MiG-29. Famous Russian Aircraft" on page 371, there is a diagram confirming that the MiG-29 (izdeliye 9.12) did not carry these missiles. Additionally, on page 378, in the table comparing different versions of the aircraft, the last few rows do not contain any information regarding the R-27ET/ER; this is only included in the table for the MiG-29S (izdeliye 9.13S). In the manuals regarding MiG-29A, there is no mention of the R-27ET/ER, at least I couldn't find any references to them in any Polish or Czech language manuals. So, I would like to know if in the FF MiG-29A version for DCS we are bending reality, or if there was a mistake in the FAQ. I also understand that some people expect these missiles, but it seems to me that the module you release should be as accurate as possible to the original, and adding missiles and bending reality is something for modders to handle.