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1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:
Well the Corsair already comes with a carrier. And assets that has nothing to do with ED.
And some more stuff...
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Weapons:
- SWOD Mark 9 Model 1 (ASM-N-2 Bat after war)
- Tiny Tim Rockets (on progress)
M3 PTO Assets pack (M3 Assets pack team):
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Aircrafts:
- Some IJN/IJA aircraft's
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Ships:
- USS Yorktown (CV-10) "Long-hull" Essex (Ticonderoga class)
- Commencement Bay CVE (planned?) (rummors by a -Ruddel- pic, no confirmed)
- Other IJN ships
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Vehicles:
- 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type naval gun.
- Type 2 Ka-Mi amphibious tank.
- Type 88 75 mm AA gun.
- Type 89 I-Go medium tank
- Type 94 Truck.
- Type 95 Ha-Go light tank.
- Type 96 25 mm AT/AA Gun.
- Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tank.
And ED has making your propper stuff with the F6F Hellcat
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Map
- Marianas WW2 (free)
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PTO Assets pack (ED Assets pack team):
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Air Units
- AM6 Zero
- Others UsN/Marines/IJN/IJN aircrafts
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Naval Units
- USS Enterprise CV-6 Yorktown class carrier
- Mogami CVL/CA
- Others IJN/UsN Ships
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Infantry units
- Some IJA/US infatry?
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Air Units
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16 hours ago, Gunfreak said:The Corsair had been in production for 8+ years ww2 Marinas 3.
What was Mag3 supposed do if ED didn't decide on making Marianas?
We have plenty of modules that don't really have a home.
Like I-16 and the upcoming LA-7.
MiG15. Viggen finally got a home last week, after 5+ years.Someone need remember the first talking about a Corsair module coming when M3 was Leatherneck 3rd parties, when Mig-21bis was release and Lnk show a stub about a Iwo Jima map and a F4U.... Before break them and form Heatblur (and AJS-37)... And M3 (with rescue de Mig-21bis and start the CE2 to relearn making modules to DCS).... They put the F4U on "fridge" and Iwo Jima was depleted , they never form a map team as Heatblur (the claims about the baltic and north atlantic mais). On that times none has know about a Marianas.... Modern or WW2 by ED, was the times of the Channel.... And RRG studios "drama" modules.
Add to Octopus-G the incoming Po-2, show on the Chirsmast video, and that team has no a Assets Pack team. About maps, the same situations, Only ED and Ugra media make maps, bue UM has none a assets pack team yet.
Enviado desde mi CPH2197 mediante Tapatalk
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5 hours ago, upyr1 said:
The question though is what % would be the same?
40-50% I think
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PC-9/A Pilatus develop pic by Check Six Simulations on Discord.
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Interview to Baltic Dragon on StormBirds.
https://stormbirds.blog/2024/05/09/community-qa-with-dcs-campaign-author-baltic-dragon/-
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Miltech 5 Bo-105 develop update.
Dear DCS Simmers,
Today we successfully completed the downwash effect for the Medusa rotor system. All 10 sectors of each rotor blade are included and the distance to the ground is accurately calculated.
The first tests were very(!) successful.
Next, the ground effect is connected to the MEDUSA rotor system.
Air density, temperature, rotor speed, parts on the helicopter and other physical influences are taken into account here.
GYROS:
Gyro alignment is currently limited from 2 minutes to 10 seconds.
However, we will implement a feature in the configuration menu that can be selected between REAL ALIGNMENT and FAST ALIGNMENT.
TEST PHASE:
We have programmed an extra app for the RL PILOTS that runs during the flight and allows them to influence the intensity of all control inputs during the flight.
This app has sliders that are taken over in real time by DCS and are executed directly.
Final Tasks for FM:
- LUBRICATION
- HYDRAULIC
- ENGINE (This task will be finalized as soon as we have the inputs from the FM test from the RL pilots)
Our Pilot already entered the Cockpit...
ROIE, our Co-Pilot is ready ...
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35 minutes ago, upyr1 said:
While simply slapping a Soviet livery on the model we have won't work, I'm still wondering how hard would it be for Dekka to tweak the model and add the tail gun, right nose and antennae?
the engine naceles, the nose (soviet radar radome / cristal bomber), the wing, the undercarriage and the fuselage has diferences, has not only a minor changes.
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For actual times Russian Ships on Kola region (not all).
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SSBN
- Project 955A Borey Class
- Project 667BDRM Delta IV Class
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SSGN
- Project 949AM Oscar Class
- Project 885 Graney Class
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SSN
- Project 971 Akula Сlass
- Project 945 Sierra Class
- Project 671RTM/RTMK Victor Class
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SS
- Project 877 Kilo Class (ED)
- Project 636 Kilo improved Class (ED)
- Project 677 Lada Class
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SSN Special
- Project 20120 Sargan Class
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Carrier
- Project 1143.5 Kutnesov Class (ED)
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BattleCruiser
- Project 1144 Kirov Class (ED)
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Cruiser
- Project 1164 Slava Class (ED)
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Destroyer
- Project 1155 Udaloy Class
- Project 956 Sobremeny Class
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Frigates
- Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov class
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Corvettes
- Project 1124 Grisha Class (ED)
- Project 1234 Nanuchka Class
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Landing Ship
- Project 775 Ropucha Class (ED)
- Project 11711 Ivan Green (ED)
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Landing Craft
- Project 1176 Ondartra Class
- BK-16 Raptor Class
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19 hours ago, Raisuli said:
Just finished an inspection of one of the seemingly endless boomers, many of which are in the dock so there was some concern about material condition. Dock time is normal after a deployment, or meltdown, but there seemed to be an excessive number of boomers in need of repair. Pretty obvious these are soft-shelled turtlebacks and the flow noise must be horrendous.
Also noticed, and this makes the map almost unflyable, they replaced Rosatomflot with something else entirely and the big icebreakers that should be there with generic bulk carriers. Oh, horrors <cue dramatic music>. Parked the Kuz where it belongs just barely south of those piers, large chunks of (available) Russian hardware to the north, added a couple Kilos...almost have a navy, even if it's all welded to piers.
That Delta IV 3D model has very Ugly and painful...
The same situation with other "atrezzo" subs on the map...
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On 4/12/2024 at 2:34 AM, Logan54 said:
Hello devs! I saw a lot of french videos about F1, and I noticed that a lot of flights were together with Jaguars. And I find it as the really nice way of using 2 different jets with similar dinamics as mixed group. Jaguar was used as fighter-bomber with smart AG weapon, and it also can use anti radar and anti sea rockets and AGMs with laser-guided bombs. Also took part in Desert Storm operation and operated in Chad together with F1. So I think that it would be the great compliment from the chef if you guys find this idea reasonoble and let me and other virtual pilots interested in french line jets to have Jaguar in DCS.
As talked Aerges has a Spanish Team dedicated to build Spanish Air Force Aircrafts, dont expect a Jaguar.
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18 minutes ago, cfrag said:
Uh, that sounds strangely similar to what people said about Kodak. Now, I'm not saying ED are about to go under or in any danger, but what happened to Kodak was partly the result of not moving with the market. I'm sure the kind people at ED are constantly looking at options, and for the time being have decided to stick with the old-school 'one-off' business model. I wish them well, and also am happy to state that I'd stick with them should they go subscription.
"old school"... o yeah.... ED was in the past first by a study under control of external publishers SSI/Ubisoft....(Flanker to Lomac), publish your own products (FC to A-10C), and now has Base free with your projects and 3rd Parties products (DCS World), and now ED has Kodak...
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21 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:
The problem I think is the current business model is not sustainable long term......there is a limit to how many modules people will buy and a limit to how many there to make still....If we want ED and DCS to survive and grow going forwards, what is wrong with being frank and open with the community that buys the product about how it goes forwards? Its clear ( present troubles if we are to believe the conjecture, are an example) that the lack of known, regular income is starting to hurt...you cant rely on external developers producing stuff at the required dates and state of readiness regularly enough to make accurate financial forecasts and plan your cash flow. I would be very happy to pay a subscription as long as it had added value and clarity on what you get. The world changes and business need to change with it, sad fact of life.
ED has a company with 33 years old... and DCS has 15 years old. Surely has not sustainable at long term?
About building modules... ED and 3rd parties has making only a little part of the more remarked modules on the aviation history, and has many aircrafts on modern / Cold War / WW2 with can build. We dont talking about maps / other stuff modules will can build on a future.
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19 hours ago, Algiz said:
В ДКС вроде нет Ту-128. Ну и на нашей Африканде они вроде не водились, но тут я просто не в курсе. Последними, до расформирования, были Су-27.
Су-15 в 80-е годы в Африке, Мурманская область.
https://www.ww2.dk/new/air force/regiment/iap/431iap.htm
Як-28П/Миг-31 в 80-е годы в Мончегорске Мурманской области.
https://www.ww2.dk/new/air force/regiment/iap/174gviap.htmМиГ-23М/Су-27 в 80-е годы в Кильп-Явре Мурманской области.
https://www.ww2.dk/new/air force/regiment/iap/941iap.htm
21-й корпус ПВО Мурманской области.
https://www.ww2.dk/new/pvo/21kpvo.htm-
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16 hours ago, Bosun said:
Overall though, I agree with the original post: We need more detailed landscape engines here.
Games like MSFS have really pushed the bar, and having 2010 map-technology now is showing its age. MSFS has much higher detail and is still performant, so this isn't an impossible goal.
The real question is whether or not DCS would require an entirely new engine to support such a shift in detail. The new Kola map is an example where, given OrbX' other projects in MSFS, their quality is quite high and I can only imagine that the trees and buildings we see in their Kola map being as refined as any other on Caucauses is only due to limitations of the engine itself.ED has working on a "Whole Earth" technology and Vulkan engine has arround the corner... diferent engines, diferent map building technics and diferent module buildings, and MSFS a engine without none about damage models, warfare systems, weapons, and a long etc... ED dont need change to engine to other with none capability to make realistic combat.
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4 hours ago, upyr1 said:
The main question here before we get to the technical issues, are if you saw a Tu-16 and an H-6 sitting on the flight line without any markings how hard would it be to tell them apart?
Please no...
H-6
Tu-16
Excesive diferences...
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5 hours ago, upyr1 said:
I know there are quite a few differences, though the question is how hard would it be to convert the existing model?
Someone need build a real Soviet Tu-16 version, no a Chinesse H-6 3rd party 3D model with soviet textures to pass as a "Soviet Tu-16". The chinesse versions has making many changes on your superstructure and systems, that is not change the texture. That require a complete new 3d model with propper funtionality.
The actual Dekka H-6 require a complete redone and remade from scratch, and surely ED dont like depend from a 3rd party about a AI soviet aircraft.
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On 1/8/2024 at 12:22 PM, BIGNEWY said:
Hi Germane, It is not always possible to fit everything in to the 2024 & beyond video. We will share more news about clouds and our plans for 2024 in a future newsletter.
thanks
Any news about the future newsletter about weather?
The old "2023 and Beyond" newsletter.QuoteWeather
Building upon the weather enhancements that were introduced with DCS 2.7, we have been further developing weather to include moving clouds and towering cumulus clouds and more sophisticated atmospheric phenomena. New fog and dust storms are being developed that are integral parts of the volumetric cloud system. The old DCS fog is a separate system that is calculated for a flat earth. It does not consider shadows from the terrain and clouds, so it has limitations. The new fog will be computed for a spherical earth and takes shadows into account. We also plan to optimize the volumetric clouds and increase their basic quality. A separate and complex project currently in development is the dynamic cloud generator which will then need to be integrated with the dynamic weather systems of low/high pressure systems and new/evolving cloud types.A later task, once the foundation is complete, will be to provide AI line of sight blocking in addition to light direction/scattering visibility limitations for AI.
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The H-6 has diferent beast, Soviet Tu-16 was only a Tu-16H and a Tu-16K imported and all "Tu-16 (H-6)" was chinnese build versions with changes on systems, perfonance and weapons, on fact need build the propper missing Chinnese versions. My info about all H-6 versions:
H-6A [Badger] Bomber
Man Rtng: 0.5/0.5 Damage Value: 47
Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Ballistic
Sensors: Type 241 radar
Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 300 360 --
Med: 430 480 --
High: 430 520 --
Ceiling: 12800 meters Engine Type: TJ
Cruise Range: 2785 nmi Int Fuel: 36300 kg
Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 9000 kg
Off Guns: 1 fixed Type 23-2 23mm in nose (1.4)
Def Guns: 3 twin Type 23-2 23mm in defensive turrets (0.8)
• 16 Type 50 or 16 Type 100 or 16 Type 250-2 or 12 Type 500-1/2 or 4 Type 1500-1 or 4 1000-1 or 2 Type 3000-1 bombs
• 2 AKD-63 or 2 AKD-63B, AKK-802K guidance pod (H-6H, H-6M)
• 2 AKD-20, 1 KG-600 ECM, 1 KL-700 ES pods (H-6M only)
• 8 1000 kg bombs (use Russian FAB-1000M43)
• 1 H639 or 3 H524-23 nuclear bombs
• 12 500 kg or 4 1000 kg sea mines
• 4 Yu-2 torpedoes
• 1 WZ-8 drone (H-6MW only)
Remarks: In Svc: 1971
One Tu-16H and one T-16K imported from Russia, later converted to nuclear role for 1965 and 1967 nuclear tests, later converted back. 120 delivered 1970 - 1987 with 8th, 10th, 36th, 48th Bomber Divisions, H-6C/E/F/H have 2985 nmi range due to redesigned wings. PLANAF used H-6C and H-6F. All variants used by PLAAF.
• H-6A: Stats as above. Has optical bombsight, limited to bombing targets in visual LOS. Updated to H-6AII from 1980.
• H-6AII: Fitted with all weather avionics, Type 244 radar, Type 211 tail GFC, rear aspect Gen 0 RWR over 090°-270° and to blind bomb area targets. In service 1982.
• H-6Z: Three H-6A aircraft converted in 1979 to reconnaissance role.
• H-6C (initially H-6III) -6AII with 1st Gen J&D, Type 244 radar, all aspect Gen 0 RWR. In service late 1983.
• H-6E: H-6AII upgraded with computing bombsight, 2nd Gen J&D. Nose 23mm and dorsal twin 23mm removed (0.6). In service 1994.
• H-6F: H-6A/C aircraft converted with computing bombsight, 2nd Gen J&D, conventional weapons only, nose 23mm removed. In service 1994.
• H-6H: H-6F conversions with Type 245 radar. All guns removed. Fitted with internal control link for AKD-63. In service 2005.
• H-6I: Planned version of H-6A with four turbofan engines, cruise range 3700 nmi, damage value 67. Canceled 1978 due to failure of WS-9 engines.
• H-6M: has HP for four land attack cruise missiles, Type 245 radar, 2nd Gen J&D, 2nd Gen RWR, retains bomb capability. Retains tail turret (0.6). Requires AKK-802K pod to guide AKD-63. In service 2007, modified from H-6F.
• H-6MW: PLAAF H-6M conversions for WZ-8 drone on CL replacing bomb bay. Possibly in service 2019.
• H-6Z: Three aircraft converted in 1979 to reconnaissance role.
• HD-6: ELINT version with all weapons removed. In service late 1990s.
• HG-6: Escort jammer variant with 2nd Gen RWR (can only jam weapons radars). Clutter rating 12. In service 1983.
• 1971 - 86: Around 140 H-6A delivered.
• Mid 90s: Retired from nuclear bomber role.
• 2011: H-6E/F 107th; H-6H 22nd, 28th, 29th, 144th; H-6H/M 108th regiments.
• 2014: H-6H fitted with 2nd Gen J&D, 2nd Gen RWR.
• 2015: H-A/AII/E/F withdrawn from frontline service, used for training.
• 2018?: H-6H deployment to Woody Island.
• 2019: 120 of all types in service with PLAAF.
• 2021: PLAAF regiments. CTC - 107th H-6K/H Lintong, 108th H-6K/M Wugong; ETC - 29th H-6H at Luhe, 30th H-6M/MW at Luhe.
H-6D/G/L [Badger] Attack
Man Rtng: 0.5/0.5 Damage Value: 47
Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Ballistic
Counterm: 1st Gen J&D Inflight Refuel: N
Sensors: Type 245 radar, Gen 0 RWR
Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 300 360 --
Med: 430 480 --
High: 430 520 --
Ceiling: 12000 meters Engine Type: TJ
Cruise Range: 2945 nmi Int Fuel: 36300 kg
Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 8000 kg
Def Guns: 3 twin Type 23-2H 23mm in defensive turrets (1.3)
• 2 YJ-6 (H-6D)
• 2 YJ-61 (H-6D, mid 90s)
• 4 YJ-83K or 4 AKD-88 (H-6G)
• 2 YJ-83K or 2 AKD-88, ES pod, standoff jammer pod (H-6G)
• 2 YJ-12, 1 KG-600 ECM, 1 KL-700 ES pod (H-6L)
• 12 500 kg or 4 1000 kg sea mines
• 16 Type 250-2 or 12 Type 500-2 or 6 Type 1500-2 or 2 Type 3000-2 bombs
Remarks: In Svc: Dec 85
Retains conventional bombing capability. PLANAF only.
• H-6D: Around 30 delivered by 1992, possibly retired 2010. Four of these exported to Iraq as B-5D.
• H-6G: 24-30 H-6F with 2nd Gen J&D, 2nd Gen RWR. All guns removed. Replaces H-6D. In service 2002 with ETCN and STCN.
• H-6L: H-6G conversions with provision of YJ-12. In service Feb 19.
• 1990s: Eight H-6D converted to tanker, listed separately.
• 2011: Three regiments - H-6G at Danyang East; H-6D/G, H-6DU at Shanhaigun and Guiping.
• 2013 or 2014: H-6G operational with YJ-12, as H-6L loadout.
• 2011: Two regiments - H-6G, H-6DU at Shanhaigun and Guiping.
• 2018: H-6Gs seen with underwing defensive ECM pods.
• 2018: Regiments - 17th H-6G/H-6DU at Cangzhou ETCN, 23rd H-6G/H-6DU at Guiping STCN.
• 2019: 30 remain.
H-6J/K/N Bomber
Man Rtng: 1.0/0.5 Damage Value: 47
Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Advanced
Counterm: 3rd Gen J&D(e) Inflight Refuel: N
Sensors: H-6K Radar, 2nd Gen FLIR, 2nd Gen RWR
Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 340 370 --
Med: 470 490 --
High: 470 530 --
Ceiling: e13000 meters Engine Type: TF
Cruise Range: 3900 nmi Int Fuel: c38580 kg
Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 12000 kg
• 6 AKD-20 (H-6K/N)
• 1 NORINCO 'MOAB' bomb, 2 pods
• 4 AKD-63 or 4 AKD-63B, AKK-802K guidance pod, 2 pods (H-6K)
• 4 AKD-20 or 4 AKD-63 or 4 AKD-63B, 2 pods (H-6N)
• 6 YJ-12 or 6 YJ-83K, 2 pods (H-6J)
• 4 YJ-12, 2 pods (H-6K/N)
• 1 CH-AS-X-13 or 1 WZ-8, 2 pods (H-6N)
• 36 Type 250-3/-4 or 12 Type 500-3/-4 bombs externally
• 16 Type 250-2 or 12 Type 500-2 or 6 Type 1500-2 or 2 Type 3000-2 bombs internally
• 12 500 kg or 4 1000 kg sea mines (estimated)
Remarks: In Svc: Oct 09
Re-engined with Russian D-30KP TF replacing the original Chinese engines. Composite materials used in the structure, glass cockpit. Tail stinger replaced by electronics. Speeds and range estimated. Pods are either KL-700 ES, KG-600 ECM or KG-800 escort jammer pods. Can probably carry bombs and mines as the H-6D/G/L.
• H-6J: PLANAF antishipping. In service 2018, with eight with 1st Regiment Guiping STCN by Jan 2019, 5th Regiment Changzhou in ETCN in 2019.
• H-6K: PLAAF cruise missile carrier. 28th Regiment Anqing ETC Mid 12, 24th Regiment Leiyang STC Mid 12, 29th Regiment Luhe ETC 2013, 22nd Regiment Shaodong STC 2015, 108th Regiment H-6K/M Wugong CTC 2017. Each regiment has approximately 20 a/c.
• H-6N: PLAAF. Fitted with inflight refueling probe, 4th Gen J&D, internal guidance link for AKD-63. Bomb bay replaced by semi-conformal mount for CH-AS-X-13 ASBM. Possibly in service 2018. At least 4 in Aug 2019 with 106th Brigade PLAAF HQ Command.
• 2015: About 15 H-6K in service.
• 2016: H-6K assessed as dual-capable with nuclear armed AKD-20.
• Dec 16: Seen with @6 250 kg on each of its six wing HP. Also shown firing AKD-63, AKD-88 (w/guidance pod).
• 2018: ETC - 28th H-6K Anqing; STC - 22nd H-6K Shaodong, 24th H-6K Leiyang.
• Jan 19: H-6K test drops NORINCO 'MOAB'.
• Apr 20: H-6J seen with YJ-12. Around 60 H-6K operational in three regiments.
• Aug 20: First reported H-6J deployments to Woody Island.
• Late 20: H-6KG with 4th Gen J&D delivered to 24th Regiment as mixed H-6K/KG unit.
• 2021: Possibly WS-18 engines replace D-30KP.
H-6U, H-6DU [Badger] Tanker
Man Rtng: 0.5/0.5 Damage Value: 47
Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Ballistic
Counterm: 2nd Gen D Inflight Refuel: N/2D
Sensors: Type 245 radar (H-6DU only)
Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 300 360 --
Med: 430 480 --
High: 430 520 --
Ceiling: 12800 meters Engine Type: TJ
Cruise Range: 2920 nmi Int Fuel: 36300 kg
Remarks: In Svc: 1996
12 H-6U with PLAAF, sometimes called HY-6 and HU-6. 8 H-6DU or HU-6D with PLANAF converted from H-6D in Changzhou ETCN and Guiping STCN. Maximum transfer fuel is 18500 kg or 1750 nmi. Cannot refuel J-15, J-16 or Su-30MKK series due to incompatible hose and drogue system.
• 2001: PLAAF 143rd renamed 23rd Regiment.
• 2016-18: Fitted with 2nd Generation RWR and 3rd Generation decoys by this date. PLAAF H-6U at STC Leiyang with 23rd Brigade.
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4 hours ago, upyr1 said:
While they might not be identical the real question here is how much time they think it will it take
Has need build the Soviet Tu-16 with specific versions. The Chinnese Tu-16s (H-6) has other diferent beasts with diferent system and capabilities.
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Su-24MR [Fencer E] Recon
Man Rtng: 2.5/1.5 Damage Value: 34
Size/Signature: Medium/Medium Bombsight: None
Counterm: 2nd Gen J&D Inflight Refuel: P
Sensors: Relyef TF/RO radar, 1st Gen RWR, M-101 Shtyk SLAR (not a search sensor), cameras (see Remarks).
Throttle Setting/Speed in knots
Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat
Low: 560 650 710
Med: 560 700 745
High: 515 745 785
Ceiling: 11000 meters Engine Type: TJ
Cruise Range: 710 nmi Int Fuel: 9475 kg
Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add.
3000 L drop tank 2430 kg 240 nmi
Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 8000 kg
• 2 drop tanks, 2 R-60M, Efir-1M pod, Shpil-2M recon pod
• 2 drop tanks, 2 R-60M, Efir-1M pod, SRS-13 Tangazh recon pod
• 2 drop tanks, 2 R-60M, Efir-1M pod, KKR-4 recon pod
Remarks: In Svc: 1984
Cameras are Low altitude optical and IR. Fitted with LOS sensor link for internal TV camera, Shpil-M and Efir-1M sensors to Posrednik ground station. Operates with one Su-24M to locate ships, Su-24MR to take photos. Squadrons have 12 a/c. Must follow preplanned course, using waypoints.
• Su-24MRK: Four ex-Russian to Algeria 1997-99. Probably not fitted with Efir-1M pod.
• 1983 - 93: 257 delivered.
• Mid-80s: Operational with Navy. 15th ODRAP at Chkalvsk 1985-93; 967th ODRAP at Severomorsk-1 1993-97; 173rd OMShAP at Pristan 1993-95 as Su-24M/MR.
• 1992: 214 remain - 130 Russia, 11 Azerbaijan, 12 Belarus, 12 Kazakhstan, 12 Uzbekistan, 27 Ukraine, remaining 10 unknown.
• 2019: Four squadrons remain with Air Force - 11th SAP at Marinovka, 37th SAP at Gvardeyskoye, 4th ORAE at Shatalovo, 992nd ORAE at Varfolomeyevka. Navy has two mixed squadrons (6 Su-24M, 6 Su-24MR each) - 43rd OMShAP at Saki, Black Sea and 98th SAP at Monchegorsk, Northern and one squadron Su-24MR.
• Mid-2020s: To be retired.-
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