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I didn't say 'shut-up' anywhere. This is exactly what I posted. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1655633&postcount=1630 To me it's pretty obvious when a discussion is going down the road to nowhere. It usually begins when someone starts disputing quoted figures, without any logical reason as to why they're wrong, and with no access to the real figures. The figures may be wrong but there's no way of knowing that, so any argument/discussion about it is futile. Arguing about the range of the PAK-FA at this stage is like arguing about the origin of the universe. Unless you're sitting down at the Sukhoi design bureau with the performance speification marked TOPCRET or whatever, you simply don't know. You didn't miss anything. He's just upset because I pointed out that the conversation was ultimately unresolvable in an attempt to prevent a circle-jerk.

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That means it'll never pass airworthiness. The lightning strike test is always a fundamental part of testing. The fact the US Navy bought F-18E/Fs should have given the game away. Something is needed in the interim at the very least.

I'm asking the very same questions about the UK's F-35B purchase. The logical point of having new 280m long carries is to not require STOVL. Just fit a catapult and buy an F-35C, or even better a Rafale M. That's the problem. It's all become about ego over capability. Making a non-carrier Typhoon was the world's stupidest screw-up. The second most stupid screw-up was not fitting a catapult to the new carriers. Third most stupid screw-up was signing up for an overly complicated STOVL stealth fighter, that can't carry stand-off weapons internally (therefore no stealth advantage), can't dog-fight and has no gun and no range. At least the C variant would only have 2 of those disadvantages. The Rafale M? Sure, it's less stealthy, but has better range, can dogfight and has a gun. So it has maybe it has a lower RCS, but wit closing speeds of over 1km/s, IRST, the R^4 term in the radar equation and MRAAM success rate, I'm not going to bet on a small stealth advantage as a plug for all holes. Buy a Rafale M and invest the spare cash in radar technology, ECM and EW.

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Gloster Meteor added: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1629209&postcount=40

Looks more and more like the Royal Navy will end up with Rafale Ms every day.

Interesting. Scan read it but it didn't really specify the performance increase. What you really need is a stealth AWACS.:D

Oh great, another argument about something nobody knows about.

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Laser to shoot down aforementioned?:D Unlikely.:lol:

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