Folgore1987

The EE Lightning is part of VEAO roadmap. Mirage F1 of AvioDev. Those are two good opponents for the MiG-21, maybe since it's "bis" variant, it will actually have the upper hand for a change against those two.

Yes, I would like it I prefer the 2nd/3rd gen jets... Less help/guided stuff combined with the Mach 1+ and Mach 2 speeds. Looking at the Su-22 pics, first thing is that it looks nice. Now, it is an interesting fighter-bomber with variable geometry, gets to Mach 1.7, has long wingspan. It looks like a mix of a Su-25 with a MiG-23, since differently from the fighter-bomber variants of the Flogger, the Su-22 was a dedicated fighter-bomber since the day it's designers sat down and started to think how they would do it, I suppose. It's not an aircraft that I would add to DCS before a long list of others. But I feel that if the aircraft adds something good, new and interesting, if the developers can get easier access to it, if they have more knowledge about the aircraft, then I think they should add it.

Is the google search battle over?

They were developed because they are easily accessible, thus cheper to be made, they are simple in some ways and their developers will learn a great deal during the process of making those modules, not to mention get some cash to fund other projects. Maybe you should buy one of these. It helps with the probabilities that these other awesome fighter jets/attack helicopters you have in mind to be developed later on.

I disagree. The priority should be the AH-64 and Mi-24, they are the most iconic attack helicopters by far. We already have modules for the Iroquois, Mi-8 and Ka-50, the fact that there are these many and that they are so different from each other, to me diminishes the need to add other helicopters of the same category. Since we are talking about helicopters and not fighter jets, I don't see the reason to prioritize the AH-1 because of the Ka-50. Not always there will be a russian counterpart for an american aircraft and vice versa, and I don't think there is the need for it, there are restrictions on availability and resources for the development of DCS modules. To me anything that isn't Apache or Hind, comes #2 in priority as far as helicopters goes and the fact that there is Ka-50, Mi-8 and UH-1 already to me diminishes the need for anything else. But I understand the nationality is a bigger deal for some here than it is for me.

I think I wouldn't want the effort, resources and talents of the developers to be used to create variants of currently released modules. Some people have been asking for variants of currently released aircraft and even of future releases... I think it's too early for this. You want Vietnam War, Gulf War, etc? Well, it won't help having two MiG-21 variants, if there is no F-4, F-100, MiG-17, a jungle map of sorts, etc... So priority IMO is to EXPAND DCS, expand the amount of modules by itself, for variety sake, add every single aircraft that is meaningful, historical or simply that is available to be accessed and that would add something good to the overall sim experience and by that I mean, before adding more of the same, you look to add something that if it isn't meaningful, for example, if you release the Mi-24, I would place the Mi-28, for example at the bottom of the list, for the sake of prioritizing what is different from what is already available, another example would be the Huey and the Supercobra, I think since we already have one plus the Ka-50, the other one becomes less interesting, (for the time being of course). Then, after expanding the modules "roster", I don't know if it's right to use this word in this context, then you think about adding all the variants of the F/A-18 and so on...

The conversation was about the Vietnam War, where the MiG-17 might have played a bigger role, for it was more numerous, but what I meant was that the MiG-21, in a pilot's perspective, (or virtual pilots for the most part, I should say), is a better addition. If they are aiming at reenacting the Vietnam War, then F-4E. And if we take into account your link about the fighter jet generations, F-4E, as well. I guess, haven't looked at it throughly.

"Probably bagged more kills" is even absurd to say, they bagged way, way, way more kills than any airframe in that war. But we are not going to be playing with SAM's now, are we? What I meant is that in the perspective of the combat flight simulator, the MiG-21 is a better addition.

I don't think so. The MIG-21's even though they were in fewer numbers, they were still reponsible for the larger amount of downed USAF aircraft during the Vietnam War (air to air only). The best and majority of the vietnamese aces were MIG-21 pilots. Even in fewer numbers, they were able to do more damage to the USAF than the 17s, including shooting down a much larger amount of F-4s. In a game play perspective, the MIG-21 is a better addition to the Vietnam War because of that. It might not have played a bigger role overall than the MIG-17s, which are fighter-bombers, but if you were a pilot, you probably wanted to be flying on the 21s. Out of the 16 VPAF aces, 13 were MIG-21 pilots.

It's not. It is less popular than the Su-27 or the Mig-29, just to pick some russian examples. If we compare to western aircraft, F-16, F/A-18, F-14, Harrier, Tornado... All of these are more popular than the Mig-21, at least that's how I perceive it. Unless by popular you refer to the fact that it is the most produced supersonic jet fighter in aviation's history, which actually doesn't make it really "popular" among players, even among fans of aviation. If Leatherneck didn't make one, I don't think it would be one of the most asked for in those wishlist threads. But that's also all an assumption, I might be wrong.

I think this makes sense, but I would release other aircraft in the FC3-level, say, more "popular" aircraft that ED or third-party developers can't really make a high-fidelity model.

The A330 planned is included because it will be used as a refueller... No one is planning to include commercial flights in DCS, as far as I can tell. If for most of you it's cool to have cargo aircraft I guess refuellers can also be included. But I believe DCS and it's developers will do whatever they think they should and if there is a market for a civilian aircraft, they should go for it. I'm not going to buy the Airbus at first, but I will definitely take a look at anything that is released for DCS.

Bought the module sunday and practiced a few hours with it already and I didn't see that as an issue, it does have a tendency to go to the left side on landings, but it didn't cross my mind that this is would be an issue related to the simulation until I saw this thread, I thought it was just something that happened, that I reacted to and then I moved on. I guess that if this doesn't happen in the real one, Novak Djordjiejvic obviously knows about it and will do something to correct that, IF it is indeed something that doesn't happen in the real 21.

VEAO is developing a model of the Airbus A330. We might see some WW2 heavy bombers, namely the Avro Lancaster and the B-17 have been mentioned as planned for the future. The B-2 is probably classified.

Very nice, thank you for sharing. Amazing module by the way, just bought it and I'm completely addicted to the MiG-21.

Nice update. It's good to know that Leatherneck Simulations is doing well and that this business model is allowing for some growth. I think DCS could become a "hub" for flight sim developers, that will find here the tools to build their sims and find some follow-up as well, that they wouldn't be able to find elsewhere or before this. Looking at the LN team of devs, probably there are a lot of talented people out there who also share the same passion for aviation, who would not have been able to show reveal themselves a few years ago, much less make a living out of it.

I don't know if this has been asked before, I supposed someone already asked for it: the Mitsubishi A6M Zero. Before I was never really interested in it. But I've just read an article about the Allied pilots who tested it to learn it's strengths and weaknesses using a salvaged Zero that crashed near Dutch Harbor in 1942 and how different the plane was with better close maneuverability due to how light it was and how the wings and fuselage were built as one piece instead of separately, unlike the european and american method. It took a while before the american forces could use equipment capable of fighting on equal terms with the Zero's and even so the kill ratio of the Zero was still always very impressive. It's because of the differences that I believe it would make a very worthwhile addition to the roster, it's a very unique machine in comparison to what the rest of the world was doing. But I guess it could be more difficult to find sources of information to produce a high-fidelity model of a japanese airplane.

So this poll wasn't started by someone that is part of Leatherneck sims? VEAO said in their "Roadmap" thread that they will work on an EE Lightining, which should be eventually released. That could be an interesting combat between the two, maybe even better than against the F-4, despite the historical thing, which to me at least, is meaningless.

It shows how realistic this sim is in comparison to the TF-51 in Flight Simulator X. You don't even know, for real is even worse, you get to take off in a short runway with really strong winds in a small propeller driven aircraft, sometimes you will literally take off sideways and will only really fly straight and level at a certain altitude or not at all during the entire flight.