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Not in the past, but after a recent massive disaster caused by one of the latest updates for Windows10 on a friend's PC that took me two days to solve, I may start doing it. But again, I usually deactivate all automatic updates, and make one big round of updates (selected ones) every few months, taking care of saving the current status for roll backs. On Linux, I still have to experience a problem that required total reinstall (and even if were to happen, it wouldn't be a problem).

I understand your point, but a) I have no idea about power consumption of the Volta (but judging from the trends in the 10 series ( https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/compare/ ) I would bet on breaking the 300W wall, despite the recurrent 'more power efficient' statements.. ) b) an OC'ed i7 can spike that and beyond c) I am not only using this rig for DCS (I saw in this very forum screenshots of 4-cores usage, was I dreaming?), but also for some engineering software that makes heavy use of all cores (example: Matlab Image Processing Toolbox and Parallel Computing Toolbox, on top of my mind) d) additional toys drawing power, adding an overhead of 10/15% to that). All in all, 1000W would probably be a good choice, I'd still have a slight preference for 1200W to stay in the 50% regime and prevent spike-related problems under prolonged heavy loads. Cheers!

Neat trick!

The additional features are not very useful to me, I am a Linux user. Win10 will only be used for gaming and a couple of software's that have not yet made their way to the other side of the moon True that! Noted! Is that really so simple? I am known to be quite destructive when doing something practical with my bare hands.. :D Not really: Win10 + Some heavy profession-related sw on one, DCS (and other gaming-related stuff) on the other. The lightning fast R/W speed is too good to pass! I have an SSD for processing/temp storing data related to the sw, and external HDD back-ups. I use Unison from Linux for sync'ing and backup, no need of corporate sw for that ;) I am the classic control freak, I refuse to let a sw decide what, when and how when it comes to my data :D Thanks! Can't wait!

Yes, that's the point: it may not be in the higher efficiency band for the next months, but it will stay there once I'll get the i7 OC'ed and the Volta/AMD equivalent. Cheers!

Thank you all for the inputs! A few points: @ BitMaster I could not find the Seasonic at 1200W, only 1000W (and more expensive than my current choice). Any pointers? The AXi is nice, but it's a full 100€ more (+40% compared to the HXi). Looking at your signature, we seem to live close by, depending on what you mean with SW Germany. I'm around Munich. On the classic online shops, the 1080 Ti comes and goes, but it's never below 820-840 €. The 1080 is 600-650€. The 1070 Ti 550-600€, and the 1070 the same (!), although a couple of stores still sell for 50 less. Mala tempura currunt for RAM and GPUs :( @Johnny_Rico Your MoBo looks interesting (similar characteristics of my choice, if not for the integrated WiFi, which I need, as the bloody router is on the other side of the apartment; and I prefer built-in WiFi rather than having a PCI or a USB --God forbids!-- occupied for it). As for the Intel security threat, I am not that concerned, and I strongly suspect the 8700K, when OC at its best potential, will stay ahead for some time even after the introduction of the Ryzen 2 (at least for what concerns DCS). Plus, the price of the 8700K has nicely 'dropped' during the last days in my shop of choice. Out of curiosity: why do you say the Obsidian and mechanical HDDs do not match? Vibrations? I see you have two in your system. I am not planning for one, but just in case.. Last, the 3866Mhz RAM set goes for +20% the price of the 3200 set right now.. I am all for marginal gains, but this is quite a step, I am not so sure of the benefits. Perhaps you bought it sometime ago, with lower prices? Now the 3200 kit goes for 400€, the 3866 one goes for 480-500€, at least in here. @smallberries: exactly! I will keep my monitor at the moment, and I also suspect that a 900 would do for the time being. As or the Ryzen.. well, yes, but there is always something new just behind the corner (don't I know it, I've been postponing this new rig for way too long :doh: ). And I think the 8700K will fight the good fight for a long time to come..

Demon_, Cibit, thanks for the input. @Demon_ Yes, I have used several PSU calculators with an OC i7 8700K to 5.0, dual GPUs 1080 Ti (again, future proof is the keyword here), and all bells and whistles, and there seem to be a consensus that a 1000W would be the wise choice. Since the price difference is minimal, I went one step higher. @Cibit Thanks! And yes, 1080Ti would be the way to go, but given my current monitor, I will directly go with the Volta (or equivalent AMD alternative, if that happens!) and VR later, and save the money for the moment. I was even thinking to get smt lower (eg non-Ti 1070). It's all about compromises, given the fact I choose the wrong career, money-wise I'll check for size specs before pulling the trigger, good thinking! ... and, holy S$$$t! 5.2 GHz?? Stable? I may save some money on my apartment heating

Hey dburne,thanks for the quick reaction! As you, I would hold for longer, if I had a machine to work with. I have been holding for the past few months, enough is enough ! After all, the only things I am planning to add later this year (or early next year, let's see what comes out) are the GPU and a VR set. Cheers mate!

Dear fellows, after years of silently following this wonderful Forum, I am posting my first message in here hoping to receive some valuable advice on my next rig. The current situation is as follows: PC is gone for good (the reason is a story for another day..), and I am left with my monitor (VK278Q, 60Hz, 1920 x 1080), a 500 Gb Samsung Pro SSD, the Saitek X52Pro Hotas + MFG Crosswind, and a genuine will to come back flying asap. My current wish list is i7 8700K MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DD4-3200 CL16 Quad Kit Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 2x 500Gb Samsung 960 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe 1200 Watt Corsair Professional HX1200i 80+ Platinum Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition Win10 Home GPU: and here is the conundrum .. 1) any advice on the GPU? I am looking to a GTX 1080 or a 1070 Ti, but may settle for something less performing until the Volta is out. This GPU would only serve me to cure my addiction until later in the year (Volta+VR), given my current monitor characteristics. I will keep playing on my current monitor (see above), and I will only join the VR bandwagon on its second generation (I've tried the current one: fantastic, but not my cup as it is now). I will probably not need a 1080 Ti (also given the sudden surge in price), as the monitor won't be up to it anyway. A 1080 or a 1070 Ti will allow me to save 200-300 Eur, which will eventually go towards the Warthog (about time to upgrade my hotas, although the X52 has served me flawlessly for more than 7 years). I pushed the budget on components that are expected to stay with me for a longer time (PSU, Case, RAM, M2 ssd's) 2) Is this RAM ( channels and freq.) a good choice? Amount is fine, I want to get it and be done for the next few years (me hopes..) 3) My MoBo-RAM combination: anyone has experience with these two together? 4) PSU power overkill? The reasoning was to future proof towards dual GPU / VR / additional toys drawing from it; plus, price difference from 1000W is minimal) 5) Any other advice on possible choices? Rig will be also used for video editing (amateur-level, nothing major) and professional math/engineering sw for heavy-ish simulations. Thanks in advance guys! Gab