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I must join all the others to compliment ED for the wonderful accomplishment. The whole sim world they created is simply wonderful, and this last iteration truly provide an awesome experience. Bravi!

Here's a guy who knows how to set up the right mood for any kind of party your're hosting: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSsz5GO1rQjzp1RND7QtEjg My favorite: Currently listening:

ahah I feel you! PSU is actually a Seasonic problem, they're having troubles to keep up with demand (try searching for >1000W PSU :( ). I wonder whether things will get better after last week cryptocurrencies half-crash, at least momentarily..

All up and running (PSU still wandering about, spare one in use at the moment). Finished downloading 2.5 a couple of hours ago, and ... the awesomeness!! Not a single stutter, all max out, no major problems (some glitches here and there, nothing major), smooth, smooth and again smooth! What a great time to get back into simming! [except for multiplayer.. did not manage to fly in any of the servers.. I'll look into this in the weekend, could be smt related to the 2.5 beta, could me my incompetence (never tried ML before) ]

OT: What a documentary! It shows the complexity of a man and the make of a legend. I still remember that day at Imola.. I was just a kid, in love with Ayrton. That feeling of sadness..

:D I understand the feeling. I am kind of the same with cars, that's why I got an Alfa :lol: Thanks for all the help! By the time the psu comes I'll bother all of you again: OCing time!

:doh: Forget that, it's the base clk vs ddr. Must be the late hours...:D

Yep, it was off. Main reason was to have access to the BIOS, indeed (I did experience the problem you mention a couple of weeks ago, after a wobbly windows update/patch on a friend's laptop.. had to crash it everytime to get into the bios). And that is why I specified from bios screen to desktop: it hangs a couple of seconds there :D Installing HWinfo right now.. Funny thing, Intel utility and MSI utility give widely different results. In primis with the RAM speed (3200 on one, 1600 on the other??).

Brilliant, now it's clear! It's my first experience with liquid cooling, I wanted to be sure about the setting. Having that massive radiator+water pipes suspended above and around the CPU is still a bit unsettling :) No problem with the hissing of the fans. Plus, I always play/work with headphones, and nobody to bother around. I have finished installing all hw/sw, still with a temporary borrowed PSU. The ordered (and paid :mad:) Seasonic is out of stock and gods knows when it'll be available again.. Running a few stress tests at the moment.. max temp 60 deg with CPU @4.7 for 5 minutes. I won't be exceeding that, PSU is kind of old and not very powerful. The component that amazed me the most so far is the M.2 ssd drive. Jeez, that thing is FAST! From BIOS screen to WIN 10 desktop in less than 4 sec (full re-start, no resuming). If I may, what is your sw of choice for monitoring the hw?

It's not a fan, it's a water pump. Ok, 'racket' is an exaggeration, but it is distinctively louder when spinning up and down than when it remains constant at 1800 rpm

I have a quick question that some of you may be able to answer: I have installed the Corsair H105 on the MSI Z370 gaming pro as follows: - Radiator fans attached (both, via splitter, 4 pins) to CPU_fan1 - Pump (3 pins) connected to pump_fun1, as it seemed the logical choice. In the BIOS I saw that pump_fun1 is set to PWM, which needs 4 pins. Being that the corsair cooler pump is attached to this via 3 pins, the pump is always spinning at high speed (1800rpm), which seems to be the right course of action according to a number of references. However, passing to DC enables me to control the pump fan speed as function of the CPU temp. So, my question: what do you guys do? Do you modulate the speed of the pump, or do you leave it at 12V, thus at max speed all the time? I have tried to switch to DC, but it makes quite a racket everytime it spins up (from 0 to 800rpm, the minimum speed other than zero), whereas it's dead quiet at 1800 rpm :huh:

Nice! How do you cool it?

Of course, I hope my reply did not sound harsh . Situation is what it is at the moment, somebody will accept it, somebody will wait and see. And of course, in this particular moment, I am the first to admit that waiting would be the wiser choice. But so far, nobody has ever ventured to call me a wise man Either way, no real bad choices to be made here (well, apart paying >1k € for a 1080... that is bats$$t crazy). On a side note, I've received everything except the PSU, and they have no clue on when it will be available again, but surely not before the 13th of February!!

Sorry, but I am not following your reasoning. One will ALWAYS buy inferior hardware than what comes in the future. What kind of statement is this? ?? This does not make sense. OC, SLI, and even on the current Z370 MOBOs you do need more power. Plus, the PSU is one of the components that last over two/three builds. I purchased one with a 12 years guarantee. So, it does make sense to add power (doesn't hurt anyway) and be done with it for the foreseeable future. This is indeed sensible. However, I 've been doing this for the last year, I'm fed up, and I do not see the value (in my case) in waiting for at least three more months. But it is a personal choice. As for spectre/meltdown, I am not at all worried, for a series of reasons. Cheers!

Most likely. Annoying, but it is what it is..

Ok ok, of course. But I meant very near-future proof: I just want to go back simming while waiting for the next gen VR (end of this year/beginning of next), and only having to update the GPU by then. Cheers On a side note: what the hell is happening with PSUs? I could not find anything available (1200W) online, I am on a waiting list, with no info on foreseen delivery date from the manufacturer :(

Order placed, thank you all for the input, I'll see you up there! G.

George Carlin: Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider

This matter still confuses me (and I believe the foggy procedure has its own purpose, from MS point of view..): https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change As you say, one can login with a MS account and take care of it. But what kind of license allows for this? Does this apply to a OEM or DSP/SB version? Do you have a full Win10 license?

Because there was an offer (now gone), simple as that. I may go for a 2x16GB and leave space for upgrades down the line. If the question relates to the fact the Z370 is dual channel, my understanding is that a 2x kit or 4x one won't make a difference.

I found the order of the last rig I built, back in 2013 (!). It's funny: a) RAM price/GB was not that higher than today (freq./type not really comparable) b) The 256 GB SSD went for the same price of a modern 500 GB M2 ! c) This system would still be working nicely, with just a GPU refresh needed, me thinks.

I feel you! I am not that paranoid, BUT once my ex-beloved managed to crack an HDD containing all sort of sensitive data, and since then I am quite careful about back ups. But I do all system maintenance through Linux. Good that you pointed this out though: in my shopping cart I had a Win 10 DSP/SB (for 80€), and I naively thought it was the full, hardware-unlocked version. Turns out it's like an OEM version. I am NOT going through the hassle of calling them up everytime I'll change my PC in the future. Has any of you experience with re-activation issues on these kind of Win licenses? Good to know :thumbup:

I know.. but it's been more than a year now of keep "holding there", first because of lack of time, then holding just for the usual reasons of waiting 'cause smt is right behind the corner'.. The new Ryzen does seem interesting, but letting aside the idiotic thermal screw up, the 8700 is quite the beast, and it could very well be that performance/price ratio will be on par. Who knows. Plus, release is in April :( Again, I am grounded, and German winter is not kind on me :D And I am now leaning towards a 6GB 1060 to keep me warm until the Volta. Prices for the 1070 and up are not worth in my case for all the reasons listed above..

:megalol: This one is an instant classic: Stephen Fry on the age old Italian/Greek quarrel

There it is! Thanks for retreiving