I use an Alienware 17 R3 with graphics amplifier using a GTX 1070 graphics card with a Samsung 4K monitor problem is when I use a USB hub it down grades the other to a USB 2 when I need at least 2 USB 3 I tried the TM Warthog with TM rudder peddles on a hub and it gave intermittent USB resources error I now use an old (9yrs) X52 non pro and its not quite good enough for the A-10C so was trying to find a replacement for that. By the way the TM Warthog and hub did work if I was not using Oculus VR and just playing on the desk top