Guys a kill is a kill; I mean would you dispute A2A kills in WWII when fighter's shot down blimps? US pilots get a lot more flying time than Russian pilots and the US Airforce flying and fighting in so many conflicts is actually an ADVANTAGE; it gives the pilots real world fighting experience. Mig-29's we're shot down in Iraq and Kosovo guys...we're they on equal parity with Russian Migs; no but how many export models are. You guys a focusing too much on the aircraft and not the pilots, the pilot is quintessential not the plane.