Void78

It seems that you have not read it in detail either. Quote from the article: Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.” End Quote. This is the New York Times after all. Also the US Senate is making a big fuss over it. Pentagon has 180 days to release at least some of the info (like that will happen).It has been a month already. We will see what will happen in December. UFOs are not in question any more. The real question is what are they? And no,they are not from China or Russia that is for sure. Where have you been in the last few months? Under a rock?

No one resurrected this topic by now? :doh: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html :ufo:

Look at it from the bright side. At least they are not as bad as those Wiccan UFO weirdos:smilewink:.

Let's get back to the topic. 5 Observables:

Yeah,so....:chair:

For deceiving human kind you have politicians.:smilewink: I don't know how familiar are you with the antient Gnostic teachings who were talking about archons(reptilian,and fetus looking creatures). As for holy water... :alien:......}:ufo:

According to multiple government agencies..oh yeah they are very trustworthy. It is not like they have a horse in this race. What psychiatrists? One of more influential psychiatrist(Harvard Pulitzer prize winner)John E. Mack calmed it did happened,and continues to happen on a regular basis.

Yeah,like I have seen this type of thread for the first time. No,no,and again no.

Yup...all to real,believe it or not. Here is a nice documentary for those who have some time on their hands:

You presume way too much.I just don't judge people so easily as most of you do. And your ad hominem argument i find pretty offensive.

Exactly. But when one drunken dude is calming he served,wherever,is another thing. One thing is criminal offense,and another is dufus being dufus.

Stolen valor is completely another ball game.

They are not accomplished individuals with self esteem issues.Least you should do is point them out. Just nod,and agree,even if you know they are full of it.No need to add more cracks to something that is broken. That is my view anyway,but you do as you will.

So what is the problem? It is self imposed delusion in order for us to see them in a position of authority. They are probably younger individuals trying to find out who they really are. It is simple confidence/self esteem issue.In time ,it will pass.

There are a few things that i do not understand with your post. That is pure assumption on your part.Majority of my knowledge,comes from books,you know,from the time before the internet. I too have the label of being educated ,and as such am very much aware of my own ignorance,and the ignorance of my peers. So,these educated people don't know what they're talking about because I do know how full of crap they/we are most of the time. What I am trying to say is that I am not susceptible to argumentum ad verecundiam(appeal to false authority),as less educated might be. Boom..Latin..science.You see how smart I am.Only Trump comes close to my big brain. First of all,modus operandi of any government or center of power is conspiracy. Second,sometimes boogeyman finds you. Now,I have no idea what made you think that I am conspiracy theorist,but that is not here nor there.It is statement to get farther in life that I do not understand. How far in life should I go?What is measurement of life's distance.Is it acquisition of wealth;power?Maybe age;or is it something else? The farther I go,whatever that means,does it make me more valuable as a human being compared to some other human being who didn't got as far as i did, regardless of circumstances that hes/hers life began,and the environment they have been brought up in.Than,do I get to use Nietzsche's master morality, and leave behind slave morality values such as kindness or empathy.After all some lives are more valuable than others,right? Marx certainly thought so. I do not have to be observer of anything to be exceptional.In those 7,000,000,000,how many Me(s),or my Id(s) are there. Just one.You see I am exceptional,and i am all that is.I am cosmic stardust.I am nothing being everything. All matter is energy condensed in to a slow vibration.:smilewink: The world revolves around me,and so does the whole universe,and everything in it that I know of. I am not being coy or narcissistic. You see,when I cease to exist,from this point of view,this consciousness point of view,everything ceases to exist. And in the vastness of time,and space there will never be another me. Now do you see how exceptional I am without doing diddly squat. Lets just hope there is nothing after death.

As they should, along with religious people. The soul purpose of this particular debate is not finding out the truth (the evidence is overwhelming), but self preservation. For most people,their belief systems, and the way they view the world, are part of what they are, their identity, their whole being. If you manage to change a core belief of a person in a short span of time, at the very least you will observe nervous breakdown. Hence, you have a debate in order to ease oneself to the truth, to change the fallacy that was your belief as painless as possible. The problem with most, especially the ones the society labels as intellectual, is they actually think they know something. Regarding most important questions, they absolutely do not. That is why they are very dangerous people indeed. Are you aware that in archaeology, artifacts are dug up on a regular basis, whose mere existence juxtapose official narrative about local, global, and human history in general. And what happens to any archaeologist who point this out? It seems to me that science instead of being open to anything is no different than religion. Just another dogma. Shall we talk about the staple of biology, and one of the main atheists arguments; Evolution. It is really water tight theory, with one flaw. It literally does not have a leg to stand on. Evolution begins with a single cell that happened by "accident"from so called primordial soup. That is impossible(I would recommend asking closest organic chemist for further elaboration). Only argument is time, and yet with the formation of the first strain of amino acids or proteins time becomes the enemy. Physics..quantum gravity.You have tons of texts,videos about it on the net. All smoke.Quantum gravity,is the name of the solution to the problem between theory of relativity and quantum mechanics.They do not talk to each other. Clearly,nature have unique,uniform way of operating,and we seam not to be able to find it.All of human knowledge on physics is,at best,approximation of the laws that govern the universe. In short,physics as we know it is falling apart.They don't tell you that. The way we are taught to see reality, is false. I do not have a problem with ignorance, but with close mindedness, which equals blindness. Now, regarding UFOs, I do not have beliefs. It is knowledge based on the personal experience. If you do not have similar experience, there is no reason for you to believe me (it would be irresponsible for you to do so). However, things are as they are, regardless of what you believe or think you know. On the internet, you have all the information you need, the problem is shuffling trough all the nonsense. Extraterrestrials, inter dimensionals, what ever they are, are the architects of the coverup. They are trying, most of the time, to hide their presence, and their intentions. Obviously, they are not to be trusted, but then again, neither are you people, so their behavior makes sense in a way. For me, the topic of UFOs is closed. During one of my stargazing sessions in 2011 I saw something else, so my focus of attention has shifted.

Fair enough. So,why are you spending time with said crackpots? Crackpots or not,we are right and you are wrong. It is so obvious it borders on ridiculous.

And you will record something that is above you over 45 degrees that moves erratically by kneeling.Good luck with that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMrEdmcO6NE

Propaganda?Political agenda?No way:smilewink:.They wouldn't dare:megalol: Based on your previous post(#114),you know whats up. Anyway,i have read somewhere that the real F 14 will be brought out of mothballs for the movie(no CGI). I doubt that is true(way to impractical, expensive,without any money returns),but if it is..that would awesome.One can only hope.

I am worried that they will ruin(at least for me)one of my favorite movies,by shoving nonsensical political/social agenda down my throat,which is the current trend in Hollywood. As per female pilots in USN i do not have any comments,but i do have a video: Like you i enjoy the same things.Unlike you i do not like to mix pleasures.When i enjoy something i enjoy only that thing to the fullest.

Whats not to like.You are one of us:smilewink:.

Some chill out stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjOU87IIyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAgp-BeBnOs

Kind of.SUBS17 is trolling as crazy person,and yet he is keeping the tread alive for quite some time. I guess he is enjoying hes newly discovered alter ego. Anyway,to stay on topic:

Singing around piano..check Volleyball(with bazookas this time)..check Female pilots(feminist affirmative action bullcra#)..check Yeah..very original. Anyway,since when is a trailer guarantee for a good movie. For example,i am sure the following film is not going to be any good (low budget independent movie),but trailer is great...