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Here's hoping! Based on what they've said, feels like they have no choice, but the issues they ran into have work-arounds that are already being implemented (Jester keybinds over relying on overlay)

I know it's crazy, but people are affected differently by these things. I got Covid over Christmas and it was really rough. At least 2 weeks down, hard to walk and breathe. My Grandparents were in a similar boat but it lasted through the month of January. My parents were also knocked on their butts until mid-Jan from Christmas. I get you're saying you had the flu and they said "no it's Covid" despite your tests, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still exist and it isn't still causing major issues. For the record, we were tested and it was positive. I do 100% agree with you on the delay. "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad" Take the time to get it how you want. Some of us have been waiting since 2017, another month isn't going to kill us.

I would bet they tested for it, rather than just say "we had covid" due to a cough. It's still around, my family got it pretty bad this winter, my grandparents were down from December to late January, it was rough.

The biggest difference between every other prediction and "winter '23” is money has now changed hands. People have now paid money in the expectation of a release by March. So it has a release window now whether they like it or not. It will likely follow the tomcat release: preorder in October with a winter release that ended up releasing in March.

Just posting this, Heat Blur wouldn't post a release date and then never bring it up again until it's a week past, right?

You haven't been watching closely then, we have seen bombs dropped and migs splashed, though not in a tutorial aspect. Either way, the preorder is out. If it follows the same path as the tomcat we will see a release in March. Tomcat preorder was Oct and released March the following year. They couldn't feasibly release the preorder and then delay it 6 more months of the preorder said a release of winter '23. That would become legal trouble. My next question would be: what videos on the tomcat did we have before preorder/one month after? I know the RIO pit was last as YouTubers had access to the module before it was done and we're told not to show it.

They have not said it isn't coming this year, unless you can provide the source?

Adding this picture posted from the discord as a reminder. This statement still falls within the release window given.

So then my question, since it's so obvious why not tell us?

again, the release date they gave in september of "before 2023 is over" They've sorta said this a few times and winter 2023 IS before 2023 is over. I'm sure you could understand why someone would think it's coming before 2023 is over when the 2 "dates" they've given sorta match up, so if they are going to miss one it would be nice to know sooner than later.

Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not coming in 2023. The last discussion of an actual release date/year was in Sept when cobra said it's coming in 2023. The pre-order saying Winter 23/24 still includes that I would just hope we don't get another 2022 where the release comes and goes with nothing until later in Jan. There was even talk in November of 2022 where they said the phantom was nearing completion instead of just telling us "it's not coming in 2022. It's going well but we're behind schedule"

I remember a post (or two) where Cobra had said it's coming by the end of 2023. With it being the end of November, there are only 5-ish weeks left until 2024. The only reason I bring this up is how the 2022 release went. I'm sure many of us would rather be told now that the release window was missed instead of learning by the window itself being missed. Yes, I'm aware of the Pre-order saying Winter 23/24. Yes I know the F-14 followed a very similar release date. Yes I know these things are hard to plan. The whole point of this is post is saying please tell us sooner rather than later if the 2023 window from September is going to be missed.

I mean, I get the whole restraint of it. Nov 2022 on the forums they said it was nearing completion. So it's understandable to have the feeling of "I'll believe it when I see it" but I can't help but be hyped.

It's been said by Cobra on Reddit a few times and I believe on their discord. I don't remember exactly the post, but it was a month or so ago at most

I'm team Spooktober, it makes sense thematically. I just hope Heatblur share the same sentiment. Realistically though if it is 2023, preorders would probably start end of this month/Early November with release in December. Heatblur have, again, been saying they're very sure of a 2023 release so speculation has spread that they're on hold until 2.9 releases. I'm on the fence for that, but who knows? I would really hope that if 2023 wasn't 100% sure, they would let us know now rather than have a repeat of 2022.