Harlikwin

Let me correct your "impression" of razbam and "contractors". The principals are Roz and his brother Larry (Artist/Coder). They have a strong "family" relationship with additional artists and coders, they have an FM guy that recently had a kid that wasn't paid for like 2 years of work. Their radar guy that made the F15 radar basically has bailed to a professional competitor company that was very happy to hire him after not being paid for his work. Their 3D guy(s) may or may not be gone. Meanwhile there is considerable variation in other 3rd parties, do more or less what you say hire a guy for a project, and let him go after. Razbam more or less doesn't do that. You can even find them and talk to them on their discord if you really want to.

If you build it they will come. But the real answer cuz they are different jets for the most part. Even a 23BN.

Unless the razbam situation is resolved (and maybe not even then), its gonna be years if we get a 23 at all, and tbh I'd rather have a CW strike aircraft (mig27/su-17) to complement the 29 rather than the 23... I'd rather have 70's, but I'll take 80's if thats what we can get.

Uh where else are they gonna get spo-15 from. The CM dispensers were from the MLD as well IIRC. After the disastrous first year of the war the Soviets were pretty amenable to upgrading Iraqi jets and capabilities.

Still no docs for the MK1 tho. The Anderwave stuff came later but from what I heard all the known manuals are/were for the later radars. It's not even performance really, it's literally the buttonology/modes that aren't known. Other than that it was a fairly simple pulse radar for the mk1.

Fair enough, I'm sure ED could do it too, but well your plate looks pretty full with the 29/15C/35 hellcat etc.

The later mig23 radars were also PD, though a "weird" externally coherent PD.

Thanks for the correction. I just recall it was missing some free search mode.

I mostly hope that IRST doesn't see thru clouds... We got Fog impacting IR stuff recently so I'm hopeful actual clouds blocking IR comes before or with the release of the 29. Also KOLS was mostly to be used for weapon systems Cueing, the IRST "functionality" was pretty terrible according to pilots with major clutter problems, which makes sense given that it doesn't really have much in the way of clutter processing per the TM.

Exactly this. CZ never bought the R-73 either, not sure on the DDR or Poland. But everyone's 29 could use the 73.

The export radar was missing one mode "dogon" IIRC. KOLS is a more interesting question but I don't have proof one way or the other, but I suspect there may be differences. But yes you got the other stuff right. Iraqis generally demanded, and generally got pretty good gear from the SU. Their mig23MLA was upgraded well beyond standard soviet jets. It had a SPO-15, extra CM's etc. So I doubt their export 29's were anything other than what the WP got, maybe they stripped out the DL stuff at best.

Sure thing, get the guys that weren't paid for the last project they spent years making to make another module... I'm sure they will be super enthusiastic to do it... Currently the idea of 23 is totally dead as Razbam isn't gonna make it unless the current situation is resolved, and even maybe not even then. And no other Devs have the docs/expertise/SME's to do it.

Yeah unfortunately some the later Blue Fox ECCM tech made it into captor and other radars and thats still classed. So there are no docs on the radar at all (destroyed in fact from what I heard). Ron mentioned they could do the Gr3 and there were enough docs for that. But well, given the current state of things thats unlikely too. I mean, we don't have the 82 version of the map. (probably the easiest thing to fix, given its just using the "delete" tool) We don't have a FRS.1 or GR.3 and likely never will. We don't have a mirage III of any sort or even one in the pipeline. The state of DCS ships/radars/sams is well in a word "grim" from a modeling/realism standpoint. So well... it is what it is unfortunately.

LOL this thread is now in "discussion" which basically means ED doesn't care, this is where threads goto die basically. Based on previous ED decisions, we will get the 2005 whether we like it or not, with no provisions for a downgrade, just like the F16/18.

I mean FC3 radar is FC3 radar... Hopefully eventually the bulk of FF radars get to the point they are as well modeled the F15E radar model.

Ehhh, the availability of the early F15A/C was absolutely abysmal. Like ~25% or so per the docs, the best squadron in 79 had a 50% availability rate. The APG-63 MTBF was measured in like double digit hours as well then. "in strength" in europe never exceeded 100 planes, with like less than half actually flying in the 70's. All that changed after Regan took office but it took a few years too. Yeah, it would be great if ED actually did that. But with their track record I'd basically expect, nope.

Yup like 3-4 would be fine.

In on this.

There are some differences, but basically for early 80's before the C started to get the MSIP upgrades it was similar enough. Though I bet no DCS fighter aces want to fly without Chaff/Flares, well aside from whats packed into the airbrake.

Well, here is the part you don't know, with the current president Germany is gona be the 67th state or something like that. Yeah, that is a good point. I mean honestly I was really underwhelmed with Sinai when it came out cuz 73... But well recent world events have made the "modern" map at least somewhat relevant. And a "modern" eagle would fit Syria pretty well too. So like there are maps that a 05 eagle would fit, but really I find the whole obsession with modern silly as there is no modern opfor. Though I guess if we are doing the F35, that might mean other "modern" red jets could be made to the same standard of fidelity. J-15 Ayooo.

Yeah... I honestly don't know why its so hard to add a tick box to disable stuff like JHMCs or DL for devs. It would make the plane a ton more popular across more eras that it doesn't quite fit in, instead of server owners trying various hacks to make stuff fit. It would be a nice "nod" to the community TBH. Yeah same... Like a F15A for the early 80's vs the mig29 would be at least a realistic matchup. A 2005 F15C with DL/HMCS and the bells and whistles vs a 1983 at best mig29 with well, lemme see, a seat cushion I guess. Isn't exactly the best matchup. Though I know redfor guys will make the best of it.

Yup. The F15C was at least in "the press" not a pound for air to ground. And we have the F15E for A/G.

IDK, maybe. But like they would have to actually model the whole modern battlespace, which well... Not trivial. Considering we don't even really have a 60's level IADS implementation I wouldn't hold your breath.

What Krippz said. IR is maybe your one hope of seeing it. And IR doesn't work thru clouds, plus the F35 is also IR stealthy. So... Basically you are boned. Exactly this.

I mean you aren't gonna make it to the merge with an F35... He will see you on Radar, DAS or EOTS, LONG before you know he's there, and he will kill you.