john_X

thats why i asked for a side view from the 3d program.to see its real profile. but i see his nose like the one from the third blueprint i gave...

can you put some renders from the 3d program? anyway, from this one you can see the difference. in the 3d model the profile of the nose is like a ducks nose and in the blueprint the profile is like a gooses nose, more aerodinamical... i cant explain very well... so, the first blueprint is correct, and the second one its also, the third its not and i think the gear is too low. to me it seems the plane is too close to the ground..

im not sure im right, it may be optical ilusion. can you put a side render from left or right? and one from above too?

so you work with all those programs? 17 programs? i cant believe it..i know how hard is to understand a single program, like max. you know to model in all those programs?

virevolte tigrou, thank you for understanding the idea i stated.i am a little exaggerated but only this way i can progress. for my plane i have 6 blueprints.the metod i use is to overwrite them. this way i found out that 3 of them are almost identical and match the photos of the real plane. they may not be exactly as the real plane but im sure theyre pretty close. brumtx, in that point i didnt refere at the shape. you find a shape problem.i refered at the model itself in 3d. if you arent a modeller you cant understand it.

you got it wrong again mate, im not trying to approach people here and im not lookin for a fight. im just trying to make the modellers be more accurate. if they understand what i mean and take account of what i state, its very good, if not i dont care, its their choice, they make mods how they want. it seems you are looking for friends here, well, im not. you say i dont respect people. if not respecting them means not telling them some obvious things,then im not. it seems you prefere the lies...i imagine what kind of friend you can be. this is the last post in borchis thread. if you continue ill start a separate thread just for you. borchi, sorry for this combat we had here in your thread. anyway, all i did was to require some screens from you to see the shape.

i dont understand where do you see the hate. i just stated some realities here, but i can tell reality hurts. next time ill say it like this: "ok you little babies, are you ready for correcting you beautiful, excellent works, please, please, please? i dont want to upset you but you have some errors around and if you dont mind, but only if you dont mind, i will try to point them. do you allow me? thank you" this kind of courtesy is not my style but ill do it if you all think it has to be done. i believe less words and more work is the better way, even if i risk to appear rude. and the last thing is that i never thouched the point of how hard is the 3d working so, why are you telling me these things? it seems to me you look for excuses, to forget the real reason we are talking about: respecting the blueprints and the real plane by doing some researches...

lool.but it is flawless.what did you tell yourself? that you are going to teach me a lesson? you are the man! 1)the wing is thick enough, i can asure you. its just the optical ilusion you have.if you want i can put a front view. i can tell you dont know the plane as you dont know that you showed me the j-22 B which has the curve you see.i modeled here the j-22 A. but yes, you are the man. you just ruined one of my surprises for this mod.i have modeled both versions... 2)the smooth transition is not done yet... 3)the part behind the cockpit is getting thinner at my model too. you just have an ilusion... 4)here you are right. it will be changed. 5)again you had an optical ilusion. i can put a top view if you want to see im right. 6)as for me is very easy to work in 3d and i work kinda fast, the 3d model will be ready in 1 week. the reason i said to the other 3d modellers to put some pictures with their works on the forum is because of what happened to me at no 4. i have a proportion mistake and im not afraid to recognize it.thats why i put the renders to be criticised.and im not shocked when im criticised. of course the MAN had 6 shots and he was right in only one, thing that makes me believe he wanted to denigrate, but i understand him...

last pics, every part of the plane is reworked, fuselage, wings etc..

3d modelling has nothing to do with setting arguments, tomcatz. its true , i dont know a thing about arguments, but i know all about 3d modelling because its one of the things i do for living. i didnt criticise you for some bad arguments tomcatz, i did it for bad shape modelling. not even for the tehnique you use, i criticised the shape you created, criticise that Azrayed can do too, even he doesnt model. the second thing. i bet you wont find even 1 little mistake in my 3d model. the reason i didnt release the mod until now is because i saw the real plane and i realised that my plane doesnt look like the real one.so i remodeled it. in 1 week the shape will be ready. third, it has about 22000 polys , not 50000. fourth, dont be so shocked, just watch your plane and compare it with the original one and im sure you will agree me. fifth, i dont give a dUCK about what you and brumtx think about me. dUCK yourselfs! i just wanted to help you evolve a little bit, because your model sucks. if you are shocked to encounter criticism, dUCK off.i wont help u anymore.stay in your mediocrity.

i retract what i said about walmis mod. its a good mod and that nose isnt a reason to dont play it. the EF 2000 looks good overall but the nose is worse than walmis f15. about other 2 all i can say is that are bad worked.... for accurate blueprints i recommend WWW.airwar.ru .i think thats its name, or you can google airwar and find some good stuff in the drawings... http://www.airwar.ru/indexe.html

1) i will soon release a mod and you will see THE DIFFERENCE.until then search for the iar-93/soko j-22 orao and see the clear shape... 2) i can tell you have nothing in common with the aviation if you dont see how many shape mistakes have all those modes. and its not that they dont know the technique of modelling, its because they dont respect the blueprints. a good eye can see how wrong its the f-15 nose modelled. also that EF 2000 has a wrong modelled nose and i told him a while ago to correct it and i didnt see any changes. that mig29 is worse than the original one from the game so the mod is useless...and the f-22 has an unrealistic profile, check the blueprints or any photo.... 3) this is what i said: "have to tell you guys that if you decide to make a mod , PLEASE do it right". i think you missed that word. and my post is constructive.. 4) why dont you show us what can you do in lomac development? cause all i see you can do is talking shit...

before you release the final version look again at your raptors shape, and see many photos with the real one.its not even close...

can you put some screens here to show us the shape? i really want to see if you have any shape mistakes because its better to correct them now, before you release the mod. i have to tell you guys that if you decide to make a mod , please do it right. i saw some mods with some serious shape mistakes and i prefere to dont play them ... i dont want to be rude, but those bad mods are: walmis f-15, EF typhoon, that mig29 and the f-22 raptor. i dont think that anyone would compare them with the gripen mod or the mig-21...

how many polys do you have? with and without the damaged model? and how many polys do you have in gripen mod too?

rambo joci pe hyperlobby? poate ne facem squad, il luam si pe dany si mai stiu eu pe cineva.

of course beczl.ill send you the model in few days... mah dany, ce vrei tu sai zici lu beczl? aveti vreun secret? sper ca nu bagi vreo stramba :))

does anyone want to continue the work at this plane? i dont have the time to work at this project anymore. all i have for now is the 3d model with an unfinished romanian texture...i can finish the damage model but after that i cant do anything more so, i need a person who knows how to make the animations and all the rest of the settings, basicly to create the mod having assured the finished 3d model... i wait for your responses...

no, this plane is 100% romanian made.

rambo doar atata stii, "foarte tare"?sau esti roman?

thank you for the trick. now it works just fine.i like the unmaneuvrability very much.the skins look pretty clean, ill add some dirt on the lancer... the only thing i dont like is the engine sound. it sounds like the su-25 or f-15...not sure, when it should sound like the mig29... and one big ugly thing about the lock on game: the sound of the f-15 sucks! its way too unrealistic and "behave" in comp with the russian jets sounds...

no, still doesnt work. i cant see the skins in the game. anyone having same problem?

can anyone put a changed and good working "meinit" file here to download? mine it doesnt work

can anyone put a good workin meinit here? because everytime i make the changes it doesnt work...

and how do i do that? i only installed the .rar pack with modman, nothing else changed...