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Want to buy this badly. Anyone has the 3D Vision setup tried this yet? what's the word ?

Sensational news. Really appreciate the sharing of this good news m8. But now I'm kinda cool down with the whole beta preorder business, partly because of Motostorm Pacific Rift on PS3 (what an addicted fun game and the level designs work so fantastically in S-3D)+ Grand Turismo 5 is coming out in couple weeks that will likely keep me happy in 3D world for a while. When those wear out a little I might ...

@Kiezer: Did you run the A10C in Full Screen or Windowed mode? I know you run BS in fullscreen, that's the only mode that works in S3D. But just in case. Just a side note, there are people reported BS 1.0.2 patch ruin the S-3D compatibility with 3DVision but my BS 1.0.2 still works fine with S-3D.

i7 920 oc' @4.2GHz, dual SLI GTX285 + Win7 64 + Samsung DLP 61in => Blackshark in S-3D at 1900x1080 is 60- ~100FPS.

Welcome to the world of S-3D. Blackshark truly is beautiful in S-3D. Let's hope that ED won't patch it to the A10C compatibility, then likely all that beauty will be gone as well.

Not everyone vision is well adapted to stereovision, that's the only theory I have. Let's take a more common setup that many have access to ie Avatar (the movie in S3D), I saw the movie and love the stereoscopic effect but BlackShark in S3D on PC is _much_ better since I can adjust convergence and divergence on the fly to suit my taste. A lot of people also love the movie's S-3D effect, but there are some that do not. How do you like the movie might explain your tendency in S3D game, but again it might not (since that is assuming that you are familiar with how to adjusting convergence and depth of the setup to suite your vision perception.) My wife and mistresses (jk) all like it but not loving it like I do, some other friends also like it but not crazy about it. But then there are some really really dig it like I do. And there are some (visual impaired, one eye is much stronger than the other or something in that vein) just can't see the effects at all. The truth is, once I played S3D games I have never gone back to flat 3D, and it's been a long time. Nowadays I also don't go see any flat movie at the theater anymore, Netflix blueray is much better in the comfort of home and movie theaters are only for S-3D ones.

it's true alright. It's a Samsung DLP HL61A750, rear projection type with LED lamp. Works wonder in S-3D in checkerboard mode. Better than interlaced and almost as good as pageflipping. Brightness is phenomenal and there is _no_ ghosting which is typical in LCD and CRT type monitors in S-3D. And as a bonus, it's affordable, too bad it's out of production now. Only Mitsubishi now is making DLP TV (3D Vision compatible and with an adapter HDMI 1.4 compatible as well), the only minus is the Mits do not use LED lamp, so users have to replace the lamp periodically, otherwise it's terrific as a large S-3D screen. HDTV also looks phenomenal on the Samsung, as good or even better than Sony's comparable size in some instances.

Many thanks for doing it. At least now I know for sure it's not working with S3D and no longer have a reason to to jump on the Beta preorder bandwagon. Hopefully somebody will update this thread if there's any positive testing in the future. Until then, best wishes.

@average: thanks you kindly. I'm glad there are more S-3D gamers joining in the chorus. I think they will listen to more wallets than just a single payment. Rant: Even if they don't care about one single fan that buys all their products since their company inception, stereo 3D make their games 1000 folds more immersive and they do not appreciate, that I don't understand. There is no far vision on this team? Don't they know S3D is the future of gaming? End Rant; 3D as in Stereo 3D (S-3D) + Track IR + big screen = Better feeling than reality. I'm not joking, the depth feel is heightened and you're concious of object placements much more than in reality. I'm 53 and I must wear glasses when reading but sitting 6 ft from a 61in screen I don't have to wear reading glasses under the S-3D glasses. Sorry I don't know much about 3 monitors to share with you.

Nice to see another 3D gamer here. Are you saying the emitter was activated (green light solid, glasses shutter) but there is no depth whatsoever? That's sad news. The game would look 1000X fold better in stereo3D. I don't know what the hell ED is doing to the A10C game but Blackshark works plenty fine with 3D Vision and my open letter to ED is completely ignored. Not a good way to deal with fan and customer. I've been buying all their products so far even back from Flanker days. An acknowledgement would be just fine, a no or a yes, really, what does it take?

Sure. The whole movie industry and multiple major TV manufacturers and Nvidia, ATI all put billion of dollars into their 3D products all are fools with money I guess. And my enjoyments of 3D gaming for the last 17 years exclusive has been all a self deception. Oh boy, talking about missing out big time.

You're right of course, looking back at Blackshark, ED didn't have to do anything extra and it works with stereo 3D (S-3D) perfectly. I was just too wound up about A10C and wanted to get on the bandwagon immediately and there is a chance though when devs do not provide option to turn off post processing effects etc... and that would inhibit stereo-3D big time even Nvidia stereo driver can't do a thing.

Here're a data point for dev on the stereo 3D issue: There are couple people reported in the Nvidia 3Dvision forum that when launched, Nvidia 3D driver read /displayed a Blackshark profile (executable was named blackshark?) then and the emitter light was on signaling the game entering stereo 3D mode, but after loading the game data it failed to display stereo and instead went back to flat 3D.

thing is, 3D is not a feature per se: Most directx games are 3D compatible right out of the box, (some games do have minor issues caused by post processings which can be turned off with a simple option or a true/false in a config file somewhere) and these games are designed by devs who never had 3D in mind. Stereo 3D is a side effects of being Directx, or more correctly the stereo part is taken care of by Nvidia Stereovision Driver if games are directx 8 and later. That's why I'm suspecting something _very_ simple is happening with A10C that can be rectified equally simply by devs if they're aware of the issue, and hence this little reminder/request. Regardless whether it's going to be 3D Vision compatible in beta or not, if devs can confirm that the game eventually will be working in stereo 3D (ie Nvidia 3D Vision compatible) then I will immediately sign up for pre order the beta, otherwise the game is, most regretfully, of no value to me. I love Black Shark and it looks and feels so damn real in stereovision, there is no way I'm going to do A10C in flat 3D, no way in hell. I'm really looking forward for a dev's reply on this enquiry.

BUMPED in case it wasn't read by ED folks.

As for pre order beta version, normally it is at a discount price tag to encourage users to put up the fund for an unfinished product. I wonder this is what ED is doing and would be surprised if the final box version will be cheaper.

Couple of people reported in Nvidia forum that your A10C does not work in 3D with the Nvidia 3DVision. I have the DCS Blackshark and it's glorious in 3D. I've been waiting for this sim for a long time and want to jump on to the beta band wagon badly...but only if it's 3D compatible - stereo 3D that is - so please, devs, confirm whether this A10C sim is compatible with 3DVision and if not now will it be in the future? Your reply will be much appreciated.

If it's not 3D compatible (ie Nvidia 3Dvison, Tridef, iZ3D) then it's worthless to me. Otherwise, I can go as high as 100 bucks a pop.

Guys, any update on this Warhog 3D compatibility?

I prefer Docs to go, it retains zoom setting from page to page. Plus it uses Dropbox in addition to desktop sync-ing, bypassing iTunes. Convenience is key here. A little bit overkill if you only need to read PDF files since it costs 10 bucks for the standard version and 17 for the premium, its main thing is Ms office Docs compatibility.

Hi all, I'm glad to see this thread already here. Anyone had a chance to test the Beta A10C with the Nvidia 3DVision setup yet? How does it look in 3D? Is it total 3D compliant or are there any 2D objects sitting around? I'm so ready to pull the trigger.

3DVision gaming slowed my single GTX285 down 20 to 30% in general but SLI brings it all back and more. With blackshark I get 70s in cockpit and around 110FPS outside in 3DVision mode - running instant mission. I think your CPU is the bottle neck in this SLI config, this has been discussed in this article from guru3d, basically it says the i7 processor when coupled with just one gtx200 series vid card will not have advantage over core 2 duo/quad but with 3 way SLI, the i7 runs supreme, doubling the performance. I think that's also true with 2 way SLI. http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-multigpu-sli-crossfire-game-performance-review/19 platform: i7-920@4.2GHz, dual SLI GTX 285, stereoscopic 3DVision mode, Win7-64 RTM, run with DCSmax. The odd resolution showed in option menu is due to the DLP TV's need to resize to fit screen in S3D mode.