Chiron

so u are saying that there is another update for AMRAAM coming and SD-10 got nerfed ?

:lol: u are unusual person Chizh :megalol: u killed me with this comment i am just asking cuz from what i saw Aim-120 performance before boosting up was done by the same CFD what change ?

Correct me if i am wrong Chizh i am not good with math and physic stuff but why u think that your CFD is correct . as i recall aim-120 family before Deka release SD-10 was in a shitty situation according to your CFD and u didn't change the missile until SD-10 show up why we should trust your CFD ? and i am not saying i am right i am asking

i already did and i hope everyone stay active there pls cuz we can't let that happened its not right and if we didn't talk we can expect more nerfing to everything cuz from what i see they want to nerf for some self interest protection for their modules hope i am wrong about that sorry

from what i saw in some public sites and books is not compatible of what ED just did to SD-10 if and i say IF they think that 80 sec is the real time for life battery then why in public sites they are talking about this range ? range 70-100 km ( 43-52 nm ) mach 4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-12 https://military.wikia.org/wiki/PL-12 https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-AAM.html http://defenseupdates.blogspot.com/2012/11/sd-10a-and-ld-10-missiles-at-zhuhai.html http://www.sps-aviation.com/story/?id=909 https://quwa.org/2015/08/21/jf-17-block-i-bvr/ --------------------------------------------------------------- a Book that talk about range and how this missile is Great https://books.google.com.kw/books?id=3GZaDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=SD-10+missile&source=bl&ots=fRYAi8h2c9&sig=ACfU3U13xUWsvaoOCsUC3x8L-PY8aqbb0A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjmPP65cnpAhUD_KQKHXK5BGAQ6AEwEHoECAwQAQ#v=onepage&q=SD-10%20missile&f=false -------------------------------------------------------------- and if u are depending that R-77 is the source of SD-10 then your R-77 is the oldest version ever and it can't be comparable to the currnt R77 cuz i dont think we can launch R-77 from 80 km lol https://www.airforce-technology.com/features/featurethe-worlds-most-effective-air-to-air-missiles-4167934/ i dont think that with this info and i am not saying its accurate info we are normal people dont have access to a military info but if this public info related to the real military information about SD-10 i dont think we can shoot SD-10 from that range ever and if its ( 43 - 52 nm ) then no way battery life is 80 sec and Deka was right about its 100 sec

i dont know guys what i see here is driving me to think in a wrong way about ED , Nineline said before that there was some WIP with SD-10 but he never said that Deka is wrong and now they change lifetime battery and other values i am not optimastic of how ED deal with that it looks like they protect their product and dont care if 3rd part is right or wrong i dont like that i though ED is a professional deal maybe i am wrong and even Deka said that they are not wrong even after SD-10 being nerf down something is not right going on

let me do some test tomorrow and post it here so we can discuss in a motivation way cuz so far i love what Deka do and how fast they fix bugs and JF-17 problem they are super active and i specially love JF-17 more than any other module ( my opinion ) and looking forward to talk to u tomorrow with some test trk

buddy MP field is a lot different than SP i tried SD-10 in SP and i dont see a different yes but in MP first SD-10 lose lock more than before second SD-10 start to love chaff a bit third SD-10 lock area small now so when u defend and notch SD-10 go stupid cuz he lost lock and when he reacquire the target again he pull alot of G so the result SD-10 lose energy more than before according to battery life time so if u can before shoot from 40nm at 40k feet now u will barley make it in 35nm if u are lucky and to heat things up is 26nm shoot with supporting the missile so he wont lose lock like i explained i am not saying that SD-10 must be invincible every missile can be defeated there is no such a thing is 100% shoot but what i am saying here it would be nice that deka come out and talk to us cuz we asked before about this missile and they acted like ( Dont worry we have our own source we can't declare it but things is good ) and the result is SD-10 nerfed so that is mean that ( Deka info is not reliable ? i am not judging here i love what Deka did actually and i love JF-17 but that situation need to be clarified that is all . and at the end i am not asking Deka to gave us the invincible spear to the battlefield cuz is up to u what u will do with JF-17 or how u will fly it and its super cool fighter what annoying me more is why they didn't announce in change log that SD-10 will be nerfed or edited according to a new data why we should discover it by luck

i dont know Aeria but i am not with u in that a lot of variables has changed and need to be tested again and we need to change our way of launching SD-10 cuz its different now and i dont know why DEKA is not responding to this thread at least ........ we need some attention here to clear this subject we deserve that r u flying in MP ?

Thx i will try it

yes i was mistaken about that maybe i will share the pic i refer too in this post

but for Boresight u need a visual contact right ? and yes i can see that search patterns is so odd cuz there is no way i will wait for the pattern to scan from down to up that is nonsense

what is the best mode for close combat cuz somehow vertical scan take longer time than usual to lock targets if i am facing F-18 or F-16 he will shoot first if we are head to head i dont know if i am right or wrong but is vertical scan slower than any other aircraft ? and if it is slower what is the best mode ?

why sorry lol i still happy i just was upset about life battery cuz our advantage in range shooting that is why i asked what else downgraded and for chaff looks like u are right maybe i saw the wrong lua

yes Value change from 0.012 to 0.015 what is that mean when this value increased more resistance to chafe or less resistance to chafe from what i see. SD-10 becoming a copy cat from aim-120c but faster and less guidance cuz from what i saw yesterday SD-10 got defeated the exact same way as aim-120c in Vertical diving with chaff skip the target and hug chaff

what about re acquisition i feel like chaff effecting SD-10 more than before i didn't check it 100% some couple of flying in Blueflag can someone have this information ?

they also reduce missile speed before 10nm 1.1mach speed result SD-10 flying 3.5 after 10nm 1.1mach speed result SD-10 flying 3.12 Test it if u like

why no one mention that SD-10 is downgraded ?? can we know what else downgraded in SD-10 except speed cuz i already test it and it downgraded ?

i saw SD-10 doing scissor maneuver with his target and lost energy lol

yup thx so much i found it and now i can fire PL-5 perfectly and my mistake i was relaying on radar lock even vertical scan use radar lock so that was my mistake i am not waiting for the missile to see the target i need to have a visual on target also it help me to determinate that PL-5 will see the target also and my other mistake is was shooting the missile form a wrong angel

True but from what i saw my missile lose lock the moment i launch him

what do u mean by that ? what i do if i am using vertical scan is lock + Tone i shoot with Radar i only try to be in lower than max range and shoot

yes i always get lock ofc and i tried radar lock and vertical scan lock

then i will try to share some tacview files so u can tell me if something wrong i do or not

unfortunately yes