Chiron

everyone Dream :(

yes JF-17 is not in stable version yet

look about the notch mechanism for helicopter i think its reality as i am egyptian i saw some military reports that shared in public about how F-4 phantom missiles failed to intercept helicopters and missiles seems to be ineffective against slow targets and low alt flying so i think its right my friend but what i know from a technology exist in 1973 i dont know about modern missiles what they can react against slow and low alt targets but that thing happened in real life ....... the most annoying stuff in DCS in my opinion is netcode stuff cuz DCS far behind of being stable in connection stuff and desync and lag and some teleportation notching is happen a lot in public server But TBH ED didn't module Notch correctly cuz i saw AI doing this in high alt and that is somehow nonsense

it need some test i think i will try it

ok thx so much for your explanation

welcome to DCS World

hmmm that was my question from the begaining u can slave aim-9x or R-37 without the tune i think

priceless informations actually and correct 100% super thanks for this information to be in public for everyone that is what expert players do that is why i said its all about training and optimizing your fight style it wont matter which module u choose unless u can master it and feel it in a lot of aspects like ( turn rate / climbing rate / what optimal speed / acceleration and deceleration rate / what preferable alt / advantage points and disadvantage points for example ( dont force F-16 to merge head to head after recommitting cuz he have helmet mount and he will got the better and the faster shoot and u will be dead ) study your aircraft and (((((((( care less about missile stuff ))))))))

my friend who said i disagree with u ofc its a Major changing and also i am playing MP exclusively i am a member of TAW so i am not interested in SP :music_whistling: and i found easier to kill real people than AI :lol: so its just a way of adjusting your fight style and see it as its more challengy

let me gave u a tip i am using cuz i am a VR user also train your eye to memorize targets ID and u can monitor them from the list below its better actually and it help me a lot when i am engaging in close combat i can determine target alt very easy that way

i am always use M6 and it work fine for me with our without JF-17 around in both sides

look my friend SD-10 is different now yes but its matter of changing your way of flying JF-17 in A/A Combat that is all after last Patch i did a lot of test and now i can kill enemy with SD-10 not like before but i am able to do it .. it depend on launching in closer range now before u can get kill from 30nm in 40000 feet with 1 mach speed now u can do it from 20nm separation with same parametric now . launching from 20nm in low combat situations u will push to 10nm its just need some practice and u have to remember there is no such a thing called that the aircraft will do the kill for u its about how u can corner your target to no escape zone that is all be smart and if u remember Mirage2000 before nerfe they can fly at 40000 feet with high speed and wipe the map literary after the nerfe fuel flow and speed and all stuff that changed in Mirage ,,,, do u think that after losing this advantage they stopped .... no they find another strategy to trap the enemy and kill it so far JF-17 remain dangerous in many aspect dont forget that and i am still and i will still fly JF-17 cuz really its a dangerous aircraft u just need to adjust your style of fighting that is all . ofc we are frustrated about what happened to SD-10 but that dose not change the fact that SD-10 remain dangerous in some aspects do your tests my friend and dont worry too much about it look at MP world and u will see SD-10 still kill people

i agree that some missile went stupid due to no reason but there is some factors u missed if u wanna talk about it in Discord i would be happy to help u pm me

so i missed a good option here :( thx so much for help i will try it so far i was thinking is i should fire when i got the Tune only looks like i was mistaken thx so much again

i dont know if this feature in JF-17 but is there is anyway to slave PL-5 to Radar lock ? thank you in advance i know that it can't be but maybe i am missing something

First of all i need to thanks Fox for communicating with us it make me happy cuz i dont see anyone from Deka except him is talking to us . my Question Fox for u 100% this missile or any missile perform better in higher altitude no argue about that but the lower altitude its seems to be spooky a bit for me sorry cuz from what i saw in so many fights since the last Patch the missile is not dragging enough for example in angel 10 lets create this situation i shoot from angel 10 to a target flying at angel 15 at 8nm separation if we are talking about missile with 2 stage motorize with 0.9 mach speed at launch .. do u think its possible or logic that the target just went cold and drag the missile to its death and we are talking about 8nm separation cuz if i did that to aim-120 family i am dead the missile is losing energy so fast dont mention that from what i saw also detection area is small with less resistance to chaff SD-10 got tricked very easy but so can be honest if u support the missile it will act that stupid but still it can be chaffed more than before ( correct me if i am wrong about this matter cuz maybe i am angry about what happened to SD-10 and i am imagining stuff ) but what i know for sure 100% cuz we train every week in TAW and we do a lot of test i can't launch SD-10 from 30nm at 40,000 ft anymore this option is over

what ? really ? anyway thx for the information before nerf i would say u are wrong but make sense now so SD-10 is a shorter range missile now good to know so is there is any update soon for some electronic shield it will be quit useful if we are facing Aim-120 family missiles u can take the idea from independence day it will be quit handy

i will now

u know what i am thinking now and i hope i am not right ED & DEKA nerfed the weapone at the same time ED behind DEKA back nerfed the missile at the time DEKA was doing modification for the missile .. i hope really i am wrong

i dont get it . now i am confused i launched inside NEZ why u said i launched outside NEZ ? sorry can u help me out here what is the range of SD-10 ?

that is why i simulated a simple Split-S maneuver against 2 conditions of shooting slandered and Lofting we need help from Deka we can't let that happen even if its up to the opponents there is some ground rules the situation i created for this 4 test is the least that anyone can do and inside NEZ without chaff and poor defending u should be dead there is no way that if i want to kill then i should wait for my target to fly straight to the missile that is not realistic at all and according to missile 2 motor stage and fuel and size it supposed to fly faster and more efficient than what i saw in this test even if the missile is the weaker version of aim-120 family that is not the result u can have issue with chaff resistant or maybe maneuver issues but not in straight line condition the missile didn't pull too much G's and already lose energy imagine this test with aim-120b not c and tell what will happen in fact i will do it today and share it here cuz i am 100% sure that at max range of 120b in my test condition u will have a 100% kill . and BTW Fox ED said they didn't decreased the lifetime battery i am not saying it will help but something is not right here . ED didn't decrease lifetime battery and Deka so confident its 100sec then who did ??????????????????

Fox did u saw my tacview files ?? the missile in 27nm is a lose shoot SD-10 is not operational anymore in Nez zone i already shared a tacview with 30nm and 27nm shoots and BTW this 2 in angel 30 between max range and no escape zone range and failed to hit the target

i dont know what they did to the missile but something is not right the missile according to radar scope launched near to no escape zone 27nm at angle 30 is near to no escape zone and missile is doing nothing its like u are throwing a rock in the sky so at the end it will fall :megalol:

i shared a tacview data Tiger can u check them

i dont think so , ED nerfed SD-10 without information about the missile and i dont think they will dig for information not their missile for the start . Deka ( my though ) they are upset and they will not fix the missile as they said in comment that all missiles will be handle by ED so........ u are waiting for ED to fix the missile .. maybe your grandchildren will see the fix but not us