Ryzen5 2600X build

Requirement:

# 1440p single display

# DCS 2.5

# X-Plane11

Considering the following build although I might wait for prices of the 2600X and X470 boards to come down a bit (... as for RAM - we live in hope!):

# CPU Ryzen 5 2600X (not planning to OC since gains seem marginal)

# M/B Asus Prime X470-Pro

# RAM Corsair LPX 32GB (2X16) DDR4-3200

# GPU GTX1070 under £400 or GTX1080 under £500 ???

# Display 27" 60Hz or 32" LED TV ???

# SSD Samsung 860 Evo 500GB (OS + sims)

# PSU Corsair RM750x or reuse 6+ yo 850W PSU ???

# Case reuse Cooler Master CM690II ???

All thoughts on this welcome, particularly interested in getting the right GPU for this build. Space limitations mean multi-monitor probably a no no, waiting for next gen VR.

You're going to need more disk space.

500 GB won't be enough if you're planning on using just the one SSD, especially as you should never fill it up and really ought to leave ~10-15% free (performance degrades if you fill SSDs up).

DCS is ~100GB with a 3/4's of the modules and Cauc+NTTR+Normandy installed, as each map is approx 30GB. I think it current hits 150 with everything installed.

Obviously double the amount if you install the beta branch too.

Win 10 will want a huge chunk, and while I've no idea how big Xplane is, but I doubt it's small either.

As I'm in the same process of building a new system (2700x and mobo delivered a few days ago), I'm probably going to go for a ~250gb M2/NVe solely for the system drive, a second SSD (likely 500GB) for software that needs performance, and a 2/3TB HDD for everything else, to give you an idea to go off.

As I'm in the same process of building a new system (2700x and mobo delivered a few days ago), I'm probably going to go for a ~250gb M2/NVe solely for the system drive, a second SSD (likely 500GB) for software that needs performance

What M/B did you go for? Yeah, I was pondering whether to go for 2X SATA 500GB SSDs or a 250GB M2 for the OS and non sim applications and only 500GB SSD.

Mobo I opted for is the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC (who comes up with these names?), after a good write up by a couple of sites and the fact it has a decent slot layout.

Considering the sheer read/write speeds of the M2 slots over the normal SATA drives, I'm definitely getting one and I'd urge you to do the same.

M2 250GB Samsung 970 Evo is <£100, or I might go older and plump for a 500 GB 960 Evo for ~£170. Probably more space than I ever should need for a system drive, but the boost in endurance is a comfort for hardly any performance difference.

As a side note, the 250GB models usually have a lesser I/O than their 500GB and bigger sisters.

It's not a big deal, but before buying 2 x 250GB you'd be better off with 1 x 500GB.

If I had to buy new, I'd get me a 500GB for the OS and a 500GB-1TB for all the rest, the 2nd one can be added any time later on.

2 SSD's = 4 x Sata only ( 5 + 6 are voided with M2_2 attached ), dont forget that ;)

As a side note, the 250GB models usually have a lesser I/O than their 500GB and bigger sisters.

 

It's not a big deal, but before buying 2 x 250GB you'd be better off with 1 x 500GB.

 

 

If I had to buy new, I'd get me a 500GB for the OS and a 500GB-1TB for all the rest, the 2nd one can be added any time later on.

 

2 SSD's = 4 x Sata only ( 5 + 6 are voided with M2_2 attached ), dont forget that

Neither of us said we were looking at 2x 250GB's.

Speed is a slight concern, but a 250GB M2 still batters a normal 500GB SATA SSD for I/O anyway, and at least for me, any SSD's will be a boost over my current HDD only rig.

I'm curious about the ram for the x470 boards.

Corsair LPX 32GB (2X16) DDR4-3200

The newegg specs advertise:

VENGEANCE LPX is optimized and compatibility tested for the latest Intel and AMD DDR4 Series motherboards and offers higher frequencies, greater bandwidth, and lower power consumption.

And that's the highest frequency ram I can find that advertises AM4 friendliness. When I read reviews of other high frequency modules people report issues getting the advertised frequency.

When I read reviews of other high frequency modules people report issues getting the advertised frequency.

That's why I'm sticking with Corsair. You may find more compatibility up to DDR4-2666 since anything greater is "overclocked".

I would also check to get a 2-stick kit over a 4-stick kit.

With all slots populated, higher frequencies are even harder to impossible to achieve.

The catch back is, denser sticks behave similar to too many sticks. 2 x 16GB is also borderline for high frequencies.

Check the QVL, anything above 3600 is 8GB per stick max. Anything above 3866 usually needs 1.45v or even 1.5v.

Things to consider....

What is the best matching GPU to go with the R5 2600X? In system build reviews many seem to suggest an R7 1700 or 2700 series CPU for a GTX1080 or better, but why???

With GPU's, you always grab as high/fast as your wallet allows. What you cant use in fps ( CPU dependency ) you can sink in 4k or LOD.

I bought parts for a new 2700x based system last night. They should arrive Friday. For now I'm keeping my gtx1070 because upgrading the gpu would be marginal (and expensive).

What you cant use in fps ( CPU dependency ) you can sink in 4k or LOD.

But how is an R7 2700X any faster than a R5 2600X for DCS since DCS 2.5 doesn't use logical cores and I doubt will do anything useful with those extra 2 physical cores?

I bought parts for a new 2700x based system last night.

Do you mind sharing your parts list???

No problem.

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200

ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4

Ryzen 2700x (obviously)

SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB

and I'm finally biting the bullet with windows 10.:(

It cracks me up that the the most expensive thing I bought was the ram. My how times have changed. I'm also keeping my old case, myriad fans, and 650W corsair psu.

But how is an R7 2700X any faster than a R5 2600X for DCS since DCS 2.5 doesn't use logical cores and I doubt will do anything useful with those extra 2 physical cores?

I have no idea, but this kind of benchmark is typical:

The 2600x still loses to last year's 1800x.

More core is a wise choice.

By SkateZilla: "The Base DCS World Code is Serialized Coding, But ED have Stated recently, that when parts of the Base Code are Re-Written, they try to Code it for Parallel Threads. So it may not be DCS Core + XAudio Threads anymore"

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3472314&postcount=9

I use all of my 6 cores, Pilotasso uses 7 of his 8 cores from his 2700x, I dunno, but we need many cores. I doubt your DCS code is any different.

Thing is, if you do nt have those cores, you will never know that you could use them, already as DCS is now, with Vulkan it will get even more "core-friendly".

I would buy the 2700X any time over the 8700k for DCS today.

OK so leaning towards the 2700X mainly because the parametric GPU is a 1080 or 1080Ti. My main problem is M/B - I'm not an extreme OCer but want good power delivery for future proofing.

CPU: R7 2700X (not planning to OC - perhaps with CPU upgrade in future)

CPU H/S: Stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080Ti Black Edition OR wait for 11## GPUs

M/B: Asus X470 Strix-F (perhaps overkill as I'm not planning to OC???)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 2x16 kit

Storage: 2X Samsung 860 Evo 500GB

PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750 OR Corsair RM750x OR use 5+yo Corsair TX-850

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C OR reuse Coolar Master CM690II

OS: Windows 10 (retaill or OEM???)

Total cost ~ £2000

All thoughts welcome particularly about the M/B.

OK so leaning towards the 2700X mainly because the parametric GPU is a 1080 or 1080Ti. My main problem is M/B - I'm not an extreme OCer but want good power delivery for future proofing.

 

CPU: R7 2700X (not planning to OC - perhaps with CPU upgrade in future)

CPU H/S: Stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080Ti Black Edition OR wait for 11## GPUs

M/B: Asus X470 Strix-F (perhaps overkill as I'm not planning to OC???)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 2x16 kit

Storage: 2X Samsung 860 Evo 500GB

PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750 OR Corsair RM750x OR use 5+yo Corsair TX-850

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C OR reuse Coolar Master CM690II

OS: Windows 10 (retaill or OEM???)

 

Total cost ~ £2000

 

All thoughts welcome particularly about the M/B.

would be a nice setup...

put this together for ya too...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HjHgP3

basically the same setup... will do the same things.. no big deal.

I would invest in a better PSU if it was my build that should last many years and possible upgrades.

For the RAM, make sure it's in QVL, it's a dense module with 16GB on it.

RM750x's last forever and have nearly double the power output that system needs. I don't see any reason to go with anything fancier.

The RM850x V2 is very good: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...u,5568-12.html

PSUs made by Super Flower are as good as Seasonic. 2 names to remember.

Get a Tier 1 or 2 or 2b) https://www.thetechgame.com/Archives...d-the-bad.html

The Corsair TX850 (made by Seasonic) is a Tier 2. Maybe you can use it for now. Another few years.

"Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1"

OK so now my build is looking like this:

CPU: R7 2700X (not OCing - perhaps with future CPU)

CPU H/S: Stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080Ti Black Edition OR EVGA 1080Ti SC2

M/B: Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (mainly for future proofing)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 2x16 kit

Storage: 2X Samsung 860 Evo 500GB

PSU: Reuse 5+yo Corsair TX-850

Case: Reuse Coolar Master CM690II

OS: Windows 10 (retaill or OEM???)

Monitor: 1440p capable 27' GSync OR 32'

Around £1800 + monitor + HOTAS

Any ideas for displays? (I'd like to possibly get more displays in the future if next generation VR is still not good enough.)

I'm surprised to see that dual channel 32GB 3200 kits are not on the QVL for the Asus Crosshair VII Hero. I was planning to get this Corsair kit.

Any suggestions of compatible 32GB 3200 Kits memory? (I've seen several builds with G-Skill Trident-Z kits.)