Reading Material, research ka-50

hi all,

just wondering if anybody has any online links to any reading material for this bird.

anything from flight/weapons/tactics/maintenance/performance.

just want to get a better understanding of this machine

any links to books vids tutorials all welcome!!!

Hi Mr Pink. You have a PM.

It´s a long way to Tipperary ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

can you send me that as well esac?? =D

Would be really cool to read about the shark!

Thanks in advance

Basically if anything you're reading about the Black Shark online seems to indicate that it is 'all that', some sort of 'Helicopter Interceptor', carries a mast mounted radar, FLIR, or A2A weapons, you can safely discard those articles. ;)

I don't think you'll find much of anything that's useful online aside some articles on this helicopter's performance in Chechnya, and that's probably what you should be searching for, since this is real combat application of the helicopter. There's even a couple youtube videos from that deployment I believe.

Esac thanks for the link, in work at the min so havent got a chance to check it out but ill have a look tonight.

ya have seen a lot of the videos. i was really impressed by the leading edge video. was wondering where miguez got any of the material from that he used. ime guessing he did a lot of research before making video

Most articles (depending on the author and sources) has some useful info but may contain some non-accurate things since Ka-50 is still evolving, after a long pause, and Russians tend to keep many of their plans and prototypes secret for long time to outsiders. One just have to check many different sources and judge by himself of whether some things worth to be believed or not.

GGTharos, you are not wrong about Chechnya War being the major source of operational info on Ka-50 but you can't judge Ka-50's equipment from Chechnya War only! Last large scale operations in Chechnya took place 10 years ago(1999-2000) and Chechnya Wars wasn't the type of conflict which demanded state-of-the-art equipment.

Usually the equipment that is carried from single soldiers to helicopters and planes is decided after you have observed the enemy equipment and depending of the mission you 've undertaken. There is no reason, for example, to be on a rush to develop an RWR for Ka-50 to use in Chechnya, to send an EA-6 Prowler in Afghanistan today or to carry an Exocet while fighting Somali pirates! All these doesn't mean that the equipment doesn't exist or doesn't being developed.

Still there are some very good sources online(such as military&defense press issues/books or sites) that are worth of reading!

Basically if anything you're reading about the Black Shark online seems to indicate that it is 'all that', some sort of 'Helicopter Interceptor', carries a mast mounted radar, FLIR, or A2A weapons, you can safely discard those articles. ;)

 

I don't think you'll find much of anything that's useful online aside some articles on this helicopter's performance in Chechnya, and that's probably what you should be searching for, since this is real combat application of the helicopter. There's even a couple youtube videos from that deployment I believe.

GGTharos, you are not wrong about Chechnya War being the major source of operational info on Ka-50 but you can't judge Ka-50's equipment from Chechnya War only! Last large scale operations in Chechnya took place 10 years ago(1999-2000) and Chechnya Wars wasn't the type of conflict which demanded state-of-the-art equipment.

Yes, I can - and the reason is that it is the only way it has been used. Heck, it was practically purchased to perform that specific task given its equipment. The Ka-50 won't be getting upgrades any time soon; it'll be stuck as is now probably 'till retirement. It's replacement is the far more modern Ka-52.

Usually the equipment that is carried from single soldiers to helicopters and planes is decided after you have observed the enemy equipment and depending of the mission you 've undertaken. There is no reason, for example, to be on a rush to develop an RWR for Ka-50 to use in Chechnya, to send an EA-6 Prowler in Afghanistan today or to carry an Exocet while fighting Somali pirates! All these doesn't mean that the equipment doesn't exist or doesn't being developed.

What's the point of fawning over stuff that isn't done or used? All it gets us is endless 'Why no R-73 on Ka-50?' threads ;)

it is what it is!

ka-50 Black Shark

Role : Attack Helicopter

The Ka-50 won't be getting upgrades any time soon; it'll be stuck as is now probably 'till retirement. It's replacement is the far more modern Ka-52.

GGTharos, first of all, great work on DCS:BS! You're lucky to be part of a project like that. Wasn't the Ka-52 created as an alternative to upgrading the Ka-50? It was my understanding that a single Ka-52 can direct a flight of Ka-50s using superior communication, targeting, and tasking equipment. I think that's a really smart idea. One thing I've always admired about Russian armament is the utility and common sense of it. Why upgrade all the Ka-50s at huge expense when they can be tasked by a superior platform? The cost of losing one Apache would cover a Ka-52 and a wing of Ka-50s, which in the sense of large scale battle makes the Apache (for example and contrast) far less efficient.

Originally this was the idea, yes - the Ka-52 would act as a command post.

This idea was abandoned eventually: The Ka-52 wasn't ready in time, and the Ka-50's were commanded by a modified Ka-32, IIRC.

The Ka-52 is now a full-blown attack helicopter project meant to produce an ... attack helicopter, not a command post for Ka-50's. Ka-50's are old news, and the single-man attack heli concept is pretty much abandoned at this point. The Ka-50 simply doesn't have the tricks to fight in a modern battlefield, and it isn't going to be getting them; the Ka-52 is the full-out replacement ... no longer the command post. If it can still play that role, I would say this is coincidental.

GGTharos, first of all, great work on DCS:BS! You're lucky to be part of a project like that. Wasn't the Ka-52 created as an alternative to upgrading the Ka-50? It was my understanding that a single Ka-52 can direct a flight of Ka-50s using superior communication, targeting, and tasking equipment. I think that's a really smart idea. One thing I've always admired about Russian armament is the utility and common sense of it. Why upgrade all the Ka-50s at huge expense when they can be tasked by a superior platform? The cost of losing one Apache would cover a Ka-52 and a wing of Ka-50s, which in the sense of large scale battle makes the Apache (for example and contrast) far less efficient.

Interesting. Thanks.

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As far as I know Ka-50 is still being tested with various equipment, don't forget that from AH-64A to D version there were B and C upgrade programs which were canceled and resumed with even more upgrades as the D version we all know. The use and armament/equipment of Ka-50 in Chechnya doesn't say anything at all for its future! In Chechnya the Ka-50 was counting 4-5 years of active service... it was brand new and production resumed, after being paused for some years, only a few years after USSR dissolved.

Ka-52 Alligator is still considered as the AFAC of a Ka-50 flight (1 Ka-52 & 3 Ka-50), this is the unit composition that is suggested to Russia's export customers. I don't know where have you red/found that Ka-50 will be replaced by Ka-52 but even Rososboronexport officials underline the fact that Ka-50 meant to be a low cost attack helicopter and Ka-52 its operational complement. Similar ideas are used from Greek Army concerning the Ah-64D/AH-64A+ after all.

Actually Rosoboronexport's Aerospace Systems Export Catalogue 2005 reports clearly (page 45) that Ka-50 can carry four Igla-V missiles. Maybe Igla-V have never been deployed till now but Ka-50 can carry it. We may deny it or not but Rosoboronexport knows better!

If you have better or more updated sources you can announce them to us!

Yes, I can - and the reason is that it is the only way it has been used. Heck, it was practically purchased to perform that specific task given its equipment. The Ka-50 won't be getting upgrades any time soon; it'll be stuck as is now probably 'till retirement. It's replacement is the far more modern Ka-52....

....What's the point of fawning over stuff that isn't done or used? All it gets us is endless 'Why no R-73 on Ka-50?' threads ;)

It still is as far as I know(see above) but if you have more reliable/updated sources I think you can tell us where to look. Again I 'll say that Ka-52 plays the same role for Ka-50 as AH-64D Longbow Apache does for simple AH-64D or AH-64A+.

The tricks can be implemented, this is military technology we are talking, features can be added and stuff can be upgraded several times in an asset's active service! AH-64A doesn't have the tricks for today's modern combat but it have been upgraded, same for B-52 or the few F-4 still in service. Same goes for other military equipment including the Ka-50, you just can't say... history will show!

The main attack helicopter for Russian Army will be the Mi-28 with Ka-50/52 filling more specific demands(cooperation with special forces). Do you remember some time ago that you were claiming that Apache can't carry Stingers? It proved that, despite that the 800 US Army Apaches probably can't(your sources) the Japanese ones can and I have proved that with photos.

Originally this was the idea, yes - the Ka-52 would act as a command post.

This idea was abandoned eventually: The Ka-52 wasn't ready in time, and the Ka-50's were commanded by a modified Ka-32, IIRC.

 

The Ka-52 is now a full-blown attack helicopter project meant to produce an ... attack helicopter, not a command post for Ka-50's. Ka-50's are old news, and the single-man attack heli concept is pretty much abandoned at this point. The Ka-50 simply doesn't have the tricks to fight in a modern battlefield, and it isn't going to be getting them; the Ka-52 is the full-out replacement ... no longer the command post. If it can still play that role, I would say this is coincidental.

As I am coming to a close, I wouldn't discourage people to READ AND EVALUATE all available info(its not that much after all). People should go over to more reliable sources than forums and personal opinions. You know, there are people in various forums saying that "Ka-50 airframe is of old design", still this opinion must be evaluated and be discarded/upheld accordingly.

As far as I know Ka-50 is still being tested with various equipment, don't forget that from AH-64A to D version there were B and C upgrade programs which were canceled and resumed with even more upgrades as the D version we all know. The use and armament/equipment of Ka-50 in Chechnya doesn't say anything at all for its future! In Chechnya the Ka-50 was counting 4-5 years of active service... it was brand new and production resumed, after being paused for some years, only a few years after USSR dissolved.

The Ka-50 is old and AFAIK, no upgrades for it are funded aside the ABRIS. The Ka-50 you see in Black Shark IS the Ka-50 used by actual combat forces. Its future is to go nowhere and do nothing. It IS being replaced.

Ka-52 Alligator is still considered as the AFAC of a Ka-50 flight (1 Ka-52 & 3 Ka-50), this is the unit composition that is suggested to Russia's export customers. I don't know where have you red/found that Ka-50 will be replaced by Ka-52 but even Rososboronexport officials underline the fact that Ka-50 meant to be a low cost attack helicopter and Ka-52 its operational complement. Similar ideas are used from Greek Army concerning the Ah-64D/AH-64A+ after all.

Actually Rosoboronexport's Aerospace Systems Export Catalogue 2005 reports clearly (page 45) that Ka-50 can carry four Igla-V missiles. Maybe Igla-V have never been deployed till now but Ka-50 can carry it. We may deny it or not but Rosoboronexport knows better!

If you have better or more updated sources you can announce them to us!

The Russian Army Aviation (or Air Force, whoever the helis belong to now) is not going to continue ordering Ka-50's. They will use the existing ones, but funds are going to modern helicopters like the Ka-52, and the single-seat chopper is not a concept they like.

What that export page really says is, if you wanted to have your Ka-50 wired to carry them IGLAs, you could. There's nothing stopping you from wiring a littlebird to do it, either. But it is not done.

You can pretty much forget about it. The Ka-50 as presented in DCS is exactly the configuration as used by the one and only force that deploys and uses the Ka-50.

The airframe of the Ka-50 is newer than AH-64 but the last is still in service, who says the first one is old? Ka-50 is still serving in Training Squadrons, why is that if no one is supporting the, supposed to be replaced, single-seat Ka-50?

If you can't answer directly these you may just say your sources so we can find out, read and evaluate it ourselves. Till then all such info stays un-confirmed, non-crosschecked and probably just a personal opinion/speculation posted in bold.

Rosoboronexport isn't just an "export page". To me its one(if not the most) reliable source of info till someone provide me,us or the whole community with a better one!

The Ka-50 is old and AFAIK, no upgrades for it are funded aside the ABRIS. The Ka-50 you see in Black Shark IS the Ka-50 used by actual combat forces. Its future is to go nowhere and do nothing. It IS being replaced. The Russian Army Aviation (or Air Force, whoever the helis belong to now) is not going to continue ordering Ka-50's. They will use the existing ones, but funds are going to modern helicopters like the Ka-52, and the single-seat chopper is not a concept they like.

What that export page really says is, if you wanted to have your Ka-50 wired to carry them IGLAs, you could. There's nothing stopping you from wiring a littlebird to do it, either. But it is not done....

...You can pretty much forget about it. The Ka-50 as presented in DCS is exactly the configuration as used by the one and only force that deploys and uses the Ka-50.

Same went for Apaches and Stingers till Japan ordered them, right? It may remain (operationally) that way if no serious(in military technology terms) conflicts occur in the near future!

The Ka-50 is old and AFAIK, no upgrades for it are funded aside the ABRIS. The Ka-50 you see in Black Shark IS the Ka-50 used by actual combat forces. Its future is to go nowhere and do nothing. It IS being replaced.

Hmm that means it's useless if there is any AA threat present? K50 is like flying duck if there is any serious AA around.

I kind of can understand why Russian army doesn't like the concept of one seater attack helicopter tho.

Isoul, how about the fact that Kamov announced that the Ka-50 assembly line is closed down, with the last ones being finished from parts that were already there but considered obsolete (like the Vikhr and Skhval related systems)?

The fact that Rosoboronexport offers Ka-50's with X capabilities doesn't mean that the same capabilities are in service anywhere. It means that they know they can implement said capability to a customer that requests it. The Ka-50 is an obsolete piece of equipment for Russian Army Aviation, with some airframes in service modernised to equip the ABRIS. But they know very well what they can do if a foreign customer wants them to, through previous tests, but that would require that the customer actually request that the work be done - and pay for it.

Actually Rosoboronexport's Aerospace Systems Export Catalogue 2005 reports clearly (page 45) that Ka-50 can carry four Igla-V missiles. Maybe Igla-V have never been deployed till now but Ka-50 can carry it. We may deny it or not but Rosoboronexport knows better!

 

The main attack helicopter for Russian Army will be the Mi-28 with Ka-50/52 filling more specific demands(cooperation with special forces). Do you remember some time ago that you were claiming that Apache can't carry Stingers? It proved that, despite that the 800 US Army Apaches probably can't(your sources) the Japanese ones can and I have proved that with photos.

I once saw a 12ft tall Cadillac on a monster truck lift kit... That doesn't mean luxery cars can go mudding. I'm sure that Russia is exporting Ka-50s to Iran that will be used to herd goats. I don't think a 5yr old report shows much credibility, especially one used by salesmen to push hardware.

If you have better or more updated sources you can announce them to us!

I accepted his word/opinion readily enough. I took many aircraft apart and put them back together when I was in the military.. but that was 14 years ago and doesn't make me an expert. The company he's affiliated with has liaised with the Russian military recently.. that's plenty of credibility for me. With all due respect... show some respect, pal.

@isoul, : be careful, Ed's team will not like if you argue too much and you are right :music_whistling:

I recomend to read here:

http://forum.combatace.com/topic/33338-wow-dcs-blackshark/ -> http://forum.combatace.com/topic/33338-wow-dcs-blackshark/page__st__40

-haukka81

The company he's affiliated with has liaised with the Russian military recently.. that's plenty of credibility for me. With all due respect... show some respect, pal.

Not only that.

Remember the Kamov logo on the packaging for DCS:BS?

Yeah... ;)

As most helicopters, yes.

"Yo, but I have an IR missile!" wouldn't help much against a serious threat.

Sure, you have a fully loaded fighter, with radar, that reach speeds over 2000km/h, while lights flash all over if you go over 300 in your Ka-50, and can fly up to 15.000 meters.

Do you actually think someone would get close enough for you to lock and launch your silly missile on him before he blows you up?

It is possible, but very hard if the fighter plays it right.

About the upgrades, I'm pretty sure someone posted a picture of an upgraded Ka-50 cockpit on the Russian forums (with a link here). Of course, it isn't the standard of the Russian Air Force, so our version is still the right one, but it shows that there is the possibility, anyway.

Aye, the point is that there was a lot of prototype work done on the Ka-50 that could have given it a lot more capabilities. But at the end of the day it was the Ka-52 that got the benefits.

All I 've asked is to give me a source or reference... I am shocked with the overwhelming response!

Isoul, how about the fact that Kamov announced that the Ka-50 assembly line is closed down, with the last ones being finished from parts that were already there but considered obsolete (like the Vikhr and Skhval related systems)?

Assembly line have been closed before and resumed production. Now this may be done in favor of another assembly line. I don't expect to know the whole truth when comes to military matters but at least, EtherealN, you mentioned a source! Mentioning the date of this statement would be extra appreciated. Now, I can't believe that anyone in here can guarantee that assebly line won't or will resume. So, how can we be absolute on such matters?

... With all due respect... show some respect, pal.

Its not disrespect mate! Its only my attitude to prefer, when I read something, to have a source so I can crosscheck, continue my research etc. If tomorrow I'm gonna tell another guy the <X,Y,Z-Fact>, at least I should say that I found it <in this valid source> rather than saying "A guy named isoul in a forum told me!"

Not only that.

Remember the Kamov logo on the packaging for DCS:BS?

Yeah... ;)

On my package? Where? Now, I don't mean that ED lies to us nor that Igla carrying Ka-50 is in service somewhere BUT being absolutely negative(without referring to a source) on future/possible features while other valid-sources claims the opposite is at least confusing right?

@isoul, : be careful, Ed's team will not like if you argue too much and you are right :music_whistling:

With all respect to you mate I don't want to believe these too since this forum is one of the best I 've seen! Isn't this a conversation? Have I offended someone? I just disagreed with the way info is posted!

...About the upgrades, I'm pretty sure someone posted a picture of an upgraded Ka-50 cockpit on the Russian forums (with a link here). Of course, it isn't the standard of the Russian Air Force, so our version is still the right one, but it shows that there is the possibility, anyway.

Lucas, the Igla matter is not of significance to me! I just can't accept that someone can deny any possibility without any reference. You know I can say anything without any reference... right? At least, when I claim something I usually post my source, a photo or say that its unsure/non-crosschecked. Is that bad?

Aye, the point is that there was a lot of prototype work done on the Ka-50 that could have given it a lot more capabilities. But at the end of the day it was the Ka-52 that got the benefits.

Haven't denied that! Ka-52 benefit for one reason that I posted earlier, if I am wrong just point me to the right-path(give me a source!).

Closing comments... all these was an effort to excuse myself! It wouldn't be needed if someone posted some links of press articles or book titles! If you still believe I showed disrespect to anyone with my writings I want to apologize and to say that this wasn't my intention. Thats all I had to say!

What you haven't realized is that advertizing brochures are not a reference - and that's pretty much what you're asking us to counter ... a brochure you're using as a reference.

For future reference (that word is starting to get over-used ;) ), stuff you find on the internet ins't a valid reference for anything whatsoever unless it is an operations manual or images demonstrating the use of something or other in an operational environment.

Prototypes and sales brochures and 'possibilities' are quite frankly useless for simulating an existing, operational aircraft, as they are unwanted - and they are unwanted for the particular reason of what happened here:

You are using advertising material as a reference; ED got its information directly from the military, and, no, you aren't going to get a reference or date on that just as you won't be getting a peek at an operational A-10C document to compare with the DCS sim thereof, either. In other words, some things are just classified, and either you take our word for it, or keep digging around in useless and confusing information, confusing others in the process.

Do your research right ;) The Ka-50 has a small number of aircraft listed in operational status; no one wants any more single-seat attack helis, and no one is willing to spend money on Ka-50 upgrades when they have the Mi-28 and Ka-52 to spend on. There's plenty of information that should lead you to this conclusion, but it's your job to discover it. Not everyone has scores of links at their fingertips to provide proof to you.

Again, quit reading export brochures - and yes, that's really what Robosonexport is. 'If you want this, we can make it happen'. That's great, but until they do make it happen, it's pointless to speculate.

So let me re-iterate:

The DCS Ka-50 isn't getting a FLIR, a glass cockpit, an RWR or A2A missiles. The real deal doesn't equip any of that, and if it did, ED would have to get their hands on the appropriate manuals and info to model these things anyway.

And regarding cross-checking ... see how many sites you'll find that tell you that the Su-33 DOES NOT equip R-77's, KH-31's, and all sorts of other goodies ;)

Lucas, the Igla matter is not of significance to me! I just can't accept that someone can deny any possibility without any reference. You know I can say anything without any reference... right? At least, when I claim something I usually post my source, a photo or say that its unsure/non-crosschecked. Is that bad?

All I 've asked is to give me a source or reference... I am shocked with the overwhelming response!

Source: Russian Army and Kamov corporation.

Not Source: Internets.

;)

I mean, seriously, if you want another example to illustrate that, beyond the Hellfire capability of SB90, how about the Gripen NG? It's actively marketed with lots of "capabilities" listed in official docs made by those that are trying to sell it - but the thing isn't even flying yet! Doesn't stop Gripen International from advertising projected capabilities of the mod, nor does it stop them from telling people what kind of capabilities could easily be integrated. The original 39 wasn't meant to have air refueling, and those in swedish air force never used it since the swedish air force doesn't have tanker aircraft. But when offering it for sale they said "we'll give it this capability if you want it", and then when the orders came they went to work, developed the refueling kit, leased some foreign tankers and made it work.

Exactly the same with most of the things you read in what basically amounts to an online advertising banner. Even worse - it's an online advertising banner for an operational (and therefore largely secret) military vehicle!

Why the heck would yoiu trust banner adverts? :P

Warning extra-long post...(sorry)

Indeed, the catalogue I 've red is a commercial brochure from Rosoboronexport*, which is a Russia's state company responcible for most(all since 2007) exports/imports of military equipment of Russia(I 'll post a few company details below). If you think this source unreliable its ok! Its not mine afterall.

...Again, quit reading export brochures - and yes, that's really what Robosonexport is. 'If you want this, we can make it happen'. That's great, but until they do make it happen, it's pointless to speculate.

Let me be clear on this, I haven't asked ED to implement anything like a FLIR,RWR,A2A or whatsoever in DCS and I am not "motivating" anyone else to do anything like that neither I claim that Ka-50 in active service today are equiped with more equipment than ED has already modelled. Everyone is free to read what I 've red and reject it! (actually, sometime ago, I once asked the mast-mounted radar in the "Wish List" but you explained the criteria of what is being and what isn't being modeled in DCS and I understood that and backed off. I didn't knew back then, I am terribly sorry!)

...So let me re-iterate:

The DCS Ka-50 isn't getting a FLIR, a glass cockpit, an RWR or A2A missiles. The real deal doesn't equip any of that, and if it did, ED would have to get their hands on the appropriate manuals and info to model these things anyway...

I think you understand too that I wasn't relied on sites/forums/blogs in general! I usually refer to printed material(issues of military&defense press, books regarding nation's arms etc.) or if it sites I usually prefer the ones from companies or organizations related to the development/production, export or use of specific military equipment instead of blogs or forums. As a last source od evidence I would refer to newspaper articles as "claims", since sometimes these info/claims may be denied by officials. Considering your own example, even if Sukhoi site doesn't mention the use of R-77 by Su-33 this doesn't mean that it DOES NOT use it, unless Sukhoi or Vympel states that clearly somewhere else.

And regarding cross-checking ... see how many sites you'll find that tell you that the Su-33 DOES NOT equip R-77's, KH-31's, and all sorts of other goodies ;)

I believe that I 've learned at lest the fundamentals of research in university. As long as I am not considered an expert, I never come to a conclusion myself. Even if I have 10 references leading to a reasonable enough conclusion there might be 20 more, that I am not aware of, that leads to something else. I always try to find reference/evidense even to conclusions.

Do your research right ;) . There's plenty of information that should lead you to this conclusion, but it's your job to discover it. Not everyone has scores of links at their fingertips to provide proof to you.

If someone reads that(see quotes below), he would probably think that you are talking to someone with mental inabilities! My country ordered military equipment from this "online advertising banner" called Rosoboronexport and all the stuff were delivered(!). Even US goverment applied diplomatic pressure to Greece for some orders placed to that "banner", including S-300. Actually this online banner advertising entity was more reliable/accurate to delivery dates than McDonnel-Douglas/Boeing was. Come on guys, you may think that I am stupid but I am not THAT stupid! I do not use online advertising banners neither pop-up window advertisements nor chain-mail advertisements as reference. I won't try to place any further arguments on the matter(you have my word on that) but there is no need to make me look stupid in the forum!

...Exactly the same with most of the things you read in what basically amounts to an online advertising banner(?). Even worse - it's an online advertising banner for an operational (and therefore largely secret) military vehicle!

 

Why the heck would yoiu trust banner adverts? :P

...Again, quit reading export brochures - and yes, that's really what Robosonexport is. 'If you want this, we can make it happen'. That's great, but until they do make it happen, it's pointless to speculate....

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